Yep, Alex Smith is here to stay.

[In58men]

Hard to swallow.


What a horrible draft. Glad I didn't stick around for the whole thing. I would have wasted valuable time. Reid is a complete moron. Never go all in on a guy like Alex Smith. Your offseason is a complete joke.

That's all

[milkman]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

i get hacked off whenever Green is brought into a discussion of game manager, leashed QBs...

Green ran the most complicated passing offense in the league, and he mastered it...it was an aggressive, down field offense

shit bag QBs like Alex Smith working under tight leashes from smart HCs, are given simple reads, half of the field to read, and instruction to bail on the play at the slightest distress...

it apples and oranges

End discussion of any comparison between Green and Smith.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

how do stats get more 'gaudy' than 4,600 yards, 66% completion, and 8.2 yards per pass (higher than any starting QB in 2013)?

elaborate

I've always been one of his biggest supporters. He was an intelligent QB that knew when and where to throw it, and he put the ball in a mostly catchable spot. But I think we quickly forget how often our receivers had to catch a ball at their feet, dive or slide to get the ball. Or how often he'd underthrow a deep ball. He wasn't a QB that often hit a receiver in stride, so with better accuracy, his receivers would have got more YAC.

I think Alex Smith is a touch more accurate than Green. Where Green blows Smith away is that he was terrific at going through his progressions, was never afraid to take chances, and was outstanding at finding an open man. After all this time, Smith doesn't do those things nearly as well as he should.

[Messier]

Originally Posted by Wonton Prejudice

All that and a bag of chips gets you 18 TD and 3200 yards.

God damn that sounds EXACTLY like Trent Green!

I'm not talking season stats. Just player make up, and skill sets.

[Coogs]

I'm good with Alex Smith as our QB this season. In fact, I can not wait to see what he can do here.

And, I am glad we did not pick Barkley at the end of the 3rd/start of the 4th. Drafting a QB there might cloud our judgement come next years draft... if Alex is as bad as most here seem to think he will be.

Win/Win IMO.

Smith gets a 1 year test run to see if he truely has figured out the game. If he has... great for us.

If he hasn't... we will have a good position to draft a QB in round 1 next year.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Wonton Prejudice

That's so much bullshit.

Our defense is not nearly as good.

I do agree the offense is close, but this team is going to need to average 24 PPG to have a winning season.

Alex Smith has NEVER delivered that.

Hmm I wouldn't think our LB's as a whole fall too terribly far below the 49ers at the time.

I think Berry and Flowers are just as good as/better than their starters too.

We'll see. I think our defense will be solid. I think an attacking style is what we need as opposed to Romeo's conservative bullshit.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Messier

I'm not talking season stats. Just player make up, and skill sets.

Frankly, I don't know why people keep calling him a cerebral QB. He does study the game and works hard. Yes. But even with his experience, I too often see him lock on to a read or look at one guy then tuck the ball under. Either that or resort to a checkdown.

A cerebral QB shouldn't check down as often as he does. Green was never afraid to take chances. In fact, his first season, he was a bit of a gunslinger.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Coogs

I'm good with Alex Smith as our QB this season. In fact, I can not wait to see what he can do here.

And, I am glad we did not pick Barkley at the end of the 3rd/start of the 4th. Drafting a QB there might cloud our judgement come next years draft... if Alex is as bad as most here seem to think he will be.

Win/Win IMO.

Smith gets a 1 year test run to see if he truely has figured out the game. If he has... great for us.

If he hasn't... we will have a good position to draft a QB in round 1 next year.

Yeah, the idea that our defense is in trouble is just plain ridiculous. The only two positions where we're suspect are our DEs, which are pretty much the least important on the field. We have playmakers and at worst, some of our defensive players like Sean Smith are solid but unspectacular. Our defense got taken off track last year because they were lazy. That's not going to happen this year with new coaching.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Give it time.

He'll "earn" his extension after the upcoming 8-8 season when Arrowhead sells out.

Cant imagine their plan was to trade possibly 2 2nd round picks for a 2 year starter when you can easily get much better long term players with those picks.

No you couldn't. Not this year. Have you been living under a rock for the past week?

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Messier

I'm not talking season stats. Just player make up, and skill sets.

In that case you can compare Alex Smith to a shit ton of QBs.

Why pick Green?

Because it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy, that's why.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by cockeyes

"They didn't draft my QB a round and a half too early" derangement syndrome is strong here

Geno Smith apparently inspires irrationality.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by milkman

End discussion of any comparison between Green and Smith.

Yep. Glad ttc is back.

I would take green 100 percent of the time
Posted via Mobile Device

[Chris Meck]

I don't think many people think Alex Smith is the most awesomest QB on the planet.

I don't think there's much of an argument that there wasn't a better option in the 2013 offseason. There really isn't. If you think drafting Barkley in the late 3rd and starting him day one is a better option...well, I guess you're entitled. If you think that Geno was the guy, then you're entitled to THAT opinion too, but 32 NFL GM's disagree with you. They've all been wrong before, it's true, but at this point, it would appear that he just wasn't special.

I liked Trent Green just fine, but he was a marginally talented in all physical ways. I use him as an example of what can be done with a very smart but not particularly talented QB. If you remember him as a mad bomber then your recollections are different than mine.

I expect that Andy Reid is going to run an Andy Reid offense. They will use screens, and they will use slants and they will occasionally chuck it deep in order to force the defense to defend every inch of the field, from sideline to sideline and front to back. That is what Reid has always done at every other stop. Expecting him to run a Herm Edwards offense or a Brian Daboll offense because...well, because you don't like the QB choice is dumb. Reid's gonna do what Reid does, and if Smith sucks he'll sit and quickly.

[Ebolapox]

you know what I don't get?

being required to and always hitting the spots downfield =/= downfield accuracy

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

If you remember him as a mad bomber then your recollections are different than mine.

There is a difference between being a mad bomber and throwing the ball down the field.

Trent Green was very efficient and accurate in the 15-30 yard range.

Alex Smith is not.

All he does is dink and dunk bullshit. The only QB who threw fewer passes down the field last year was Christian Ponder.

And you think that's comparable to Trent Green? **** you.

[RustShack]

Ya know maybe they did want Barkley. Or maybe they are just waiting until next year when there might a Actually be a QB worth drafting in the first couple rounds.