Giving up on Calvin Johnson...

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-07-2008, 02:59 PM

I thought I stole him in a Week 1 trade, but he's been a complete bust.

Christ, he was only targeted 6 times on Sunday.

Anyway, I put him on the trade block this week, and am going to take the best offer no matter what.

Right now, the best offer is Fred Taylor and Bobby Engram for CJ.

My skill players would be:

Cutler

Addai
MJD
Taylor
S. Young
Rhodes

Wayne
Steve Smith
Engram
Bruce
Bowe

Witten

Thoughts?

**The Franchise** · 10-07-2008, 03:15 PM

Why give up on him? Christ dude....you have Reggie Wayne, Steve Smith and Dwayne Bowe. Unless you're starting 4 WRs a week....you shouldn't give up on him. Just keep him instead of trading him for garbage.

**The Franchise** · 10-07-2008, 03:16 PM

On second thought..if you're deadset on trading him then try trading him for a better RB then Fred Taylor.

Sure-Oz · 10-07-2008, 03:25 PM

I'd deal him or package him for a solid starting back. Johnson just needs a QB

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-07-2008, 03:31 PM

The problem is, he has no value.

I have all these solid WR's in a league that only starts 2, and I'm trying to deal for a solid RB.

Every offer I get is for Smith. No one wants any part of CJ, and I can't really blame them.

At least Engram will get targeted 10+ times a game, and has a solid QB.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-07-2008, 03:48 PM

Just looking at lineups, the best I might be able to do is McGahee/McClain or McFadden.

I have a MJD/Steve Smith for Matt Forte/Desean Jackson deal pending, but he won't take CJ instead.

If I did that, I'd have to roll with Wayne and CJ every week, and hope like hell he doesn't lose me every week like he did this week.

**The Franchise** · 10-07-2008, 03:52 PM

Who has the Lions QB?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-07-2008, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23

Who has the Lions QB?

He has too weak a team to deal with, IMO.

Kitna is his backup - he starts Rivers, who I traded to him.

His RB's are:

Jacobs
McFadden
Pittman (Den)
Sproles

His WR's are:

Rod White
Kevin Curtis
Robert Meachem

So, he needs the WR help, but he'd cripple himself even further by giving up McFadden. And right now, McFadden isn't much of an upgrade. That's why I'm trying to deal MJD - he's sucked for the most part, but the schedule looks really good for him the next 4-5 weeks.

RBBC has ruined FF.

**The Franchise** · 10-07-2008, 04:07 PM

Offer him MJD and Calvin Johnson for McFadden and Roddy White.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-07-2008, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23

Offer him MJD and Calvin Johnson for McFadden and Roddy White.

I don't see how that helps me.

I'm basically trading one 3rd down back (with a favorable upcoming schedule) for another 3rd down back that has a lingering injury.

Hopefully this Forte deal will go down, and I'll just take my chances with CJ.

**The Franchise** · 10-07-2008, 04:24 PM

Well you can see if he'll give up Jacobs but I doubt it.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-07-2008, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23

Well you can see if he'll give up Jacobs but I doubt it.

I doubt it too, considering I traded him Jacobs and Rivers for Addai and Steve Smith 2 weeks ago...

Nightfyre · 10-07-2008, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

He has too weak a team to deal with, IMO.

Kitna is his backup - he starts Rivers, who I traded to him.

His RB's are:

Jacobs
McFadden
Pittman (Den)
Sproles

His WR's are:

Rod White
Kevin Curtis
Robert Meachem

So, he needs the WR help, but he'd cripple himself even further by giving up McFadden. And right now, McFadden isn't much of an upgrade. That's why I'm trying to deal MJD - he's sucked for the most part, but the schedule looks really good for him the next 4-5 weeks.

RBBC has ruined FF.

There certainly should be adjustments made to FF because of RBBC. QBs will be the marquee position of the future.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-07-2008, 07:14 PM

Looks like I'm sticking with him.

Just got an offer for Forte and DeSean Jackson for MJD and Steve Smith.

If CJ could manage to pull his head out of his ass, my team (on paper) is un****ingstoppable.

Starters:

Cutler

Addai
Forte

Wayne
Calvin Johnson

Witten

Prater

Cowboys DST

Backups:

S. Young
Rhodes

Bowe
Bruce
DeSean Jackson

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-07-2008, 07:16 PM

Damn.

Might be able to get Chris Johnson and Eddie Royal for Young, Bowe and Bruce.

Steep price, but we only start 2 WR's

Would definitely make me more balanced

Cutler

Addai
Forte
Johnson
Rhodes

Wayne
CJ
Jackson
Royal

Thoughts?

10-07-2008, 02:59 PM
OnTheWarpath15 MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $4831115	Giving up on Calvin Johnson... I thought I stole him in a Week 1 trade, but he's been a complete bust. Christ, he was only targeted 6 times on Sunday. Anyway, I put him on the trade block this week, and am going to take the best offer no matter what. Right now, the best offer is Fred Taylor and Bobby Engram for CJ. My skill players would be: Cutler Addai MJD Taylor S. Young Rhodes Wayne Steve Smith Engram Bruce Bowe Witten Thoughts?
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10-07-2008, 03:15 PM	#2
The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2965047	Why give up on him? Christ dude....you have Reggie Wayne, Steve Smith and Dwayne Bowe. Unless you're starting 4 WRs a week....you shouldn't give up on him. Just keep him instead of trading him for garbage.
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10-07-2008, 03:16 PM	#3
The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2965047	On second thought..if you're deadset on trading him then try trading him for a better RB then Fred Taylor.
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10-07-2008, 03:31 PM	#5
OnTheWarpath15 MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $4831115	The problem is, he has no value. I have all these solid WR's in a league that only starts 2, and I'm trying to deal for a solid RB. Every offer I get is for Smith. No one wants any part of CJ, and I can't really blame them. At least Engram will get targeted 10+ times a game, and has a solid QB.
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10-07-2008, 03:48 PM	#6
OnTheWarpath15 MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $4831115	Just looking at lineups, the best I might be able to do is McGahee/McClain or McFadden. I have a MJD/Steve Smith for Matt Forte/Desean Jackson deal pending, but he won't take CJ instead. If I did that, I'd have to roll with Wayne and CJ every week, and hope like hell he doesn't lose me every week like he did this week.
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10-07-2008, 03:52 PM	#7
The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2965047	Who has the Lions QB?
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10-07-2008, 04:07 PM	#9
The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2965047	Offer him MJD and Calvin Johnson for McFadden and Roddy White.
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10-07-2008, 04:24 PM	#11
The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2965047	Well you can see if he'll give up Jacobs but I doubt it.
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10-07-2008, 07:14 PM	#14
OnTheWarpath15 MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $4831115	Looks like I'm sticking with him. Just got an offer for Forte and DeSean Jackson for MJD and Steve Smith. If CJ could manage to pull his head out of his ass, my team (on paper) is un****ingstoppable. Starters: Cutler Addai Forte Wayne Calvin Johnson Witten Prater Cowboys DST Backups: S. Young Rhodes Bowe Bruce DeSean Jackson
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10-07-2008, 07:16 PM	#15
OnTheWarpath15 MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $4831115	Damn. Might be able to get Chris Johnson and Eddie Royal for Young, Bowe and Bruce. Steep price, but we only start 2 WR's Would definitely make me more balanced Cutler Addai Forte Johnson Rhodes Wayne CJ Jackson Royal Thoughts?
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