Hi, My Name Is Buddy Bell.... - Page 4

**petegz28** · 06-20-2007, 12:12 AM

And I suck as a manager. In fact I want you to call me Bob Boone 2.0!

Yes that's right! I will surpass Bob Boone 1.0 for putting out a different line up every game.

I will bat Shane Costa at clean up while I bench German and Brown.

I will bench Shealy to play Gordon at 1st and German at 3rd and a rookie at 2nd base.

I will not play John Buck more than 2 games in a row cause he is my best power hitter. I will REFUSE to bat him as a DH when he doesn't play at catcher.

I will play Gathright in Left field even though DeJesus is better in Left and Gathright better in Center.

I will send in Costa as a pinch-hitter in the 9th when I have a hot hitting John Buck sitting on the bench.

Yes that is right. You will think Bob Boone 1.0 was a God by the time I am through showing you how much I can screw this team.

Here is to me giving you another 100+ loss season.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 06-21-2007, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Valiant

Thats not why he got walked,
A: he got walked to fill the bases so a out at any base
B: he had him walk the batter so he could get an at bat, because he knew the Cards coach would sub a righthander to get a better matchup, then in turn he can bring in peralta to go against the right-handers...

Bell forced the matchup for the right-handers.. And peralta struck out both of them to end the threat...

If you were watching it on TV even the announcers said it was a great substitution...

The game was lost because the Royals bats fell silent, not because of any pitching miscues...

Once again: You already had a DP set up with an INCREDIBLY slow runner.

Furthermore, the Cards can't hit ANY LHP. You don't have to go righty-righty against them. No one, save Pujols, can hit LHP.

With that being the case, why would you bring in an LHP to intentionally walk a guy who can't hit LHP, just to pull him in the next AB? At the very least, save your arms. Whether or not it cost them *this* game isn't the issue as much as how many other games similar managerial debacles will.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 06-21-2007, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SPchief

Guys, Vailiant is right. If ****ING DOTEL walks Duncan and then brings in Gobble, LaRussa switches to a righty, forcing a L. v R. matchup that Gobble has to pitch.

That's not what I was arguing at all. Just have Gobble pitch to Duncan. He can't hit LHP at all. And if he gets him out, then he faces Kennedy who hits .097 against lefties.

Valiant · 06-21-2007, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Once again: You already had a DP set up with an INCREDIBLY slow runner.

Furthermore, the Cards can't hit ANY LHP. You don't have to go righty-righty against them. No one, save Pujols, can hit LHP.

With that being the case, why would you bring in an LHP to intentionally walk a guy who can't hit LHP, just to pull him in the next AB? At the very least, save your arms. Whether or not it cost them *this* game isn't the issue as much as how many other games similar managerial debacles will.

Again Bell gets the matchup he wants for the next two at bats...

Again Bell gets to use any base as an out...

As for arms, it is an off day tomorrow for the royals...

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Originally Posted by spchief

Guys, Vailiant is right. If ****ING DOTEL walks Duncan and then brings in Gobble, LaRussa switches to a righty, forcing a L. v R. matchup that Gobble has to pitch.

He also explains it, you might not agree with it but what Bell did was the correct thing...

'Hamas' Jenkins · 06-21-2007, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Valiant

Again Bell gets the matchup he wants for the next two at bats...

Again Bell gets to use any base as an out...

As for arms, it is an off day tomorrow for the royals...

[qoute= spchief]Guys, Vailiant is right. If ****ING DOTEL walks Duncan and then brings in Gobble, LaRussa switches to a righty, forcing a L. v R. matchup that Gobble has to pitch.

Kennedy hits .140 points higher against RHP than left, and is a much faster runner than Duncan, who hits 75 points lower against LHP than RHP.

It was an idiot move, not because they wasted a pitcher (which is objectionable enough), but because they wasted a pitcher while giving themselves the worst possible matchup. That they made it out of that situation doesn't absolve the error, it just means that they were able to beat the odds.

Valiant · 06-21-2007, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Kennedy hits .140 points higher against RHP than left, and is a much faster runner than Duncan, who hits 75 points lower against LHP than RHP.

It was an idiot move, not because they wasted a pitcher (which is objectionable enough), but because they wasted a pitcher while giving themselves the worst possible matchup. That they made it out of that situation doesn't absolve the error, it just means that they were able to beat the odds.

I guess Bell and the TV(former baseball players) announcers just disagree with you then on it being a great switch...

'Hamas' Jenkins · 06-21-2007, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Valiant

I guess Bell and the TV(former baseball players) announcers just disagree with you then on it being a great switch...

...sorry that I actually watch Cards games and know the tendencies and splits of their players. Your manager should have too.

He hit on 17 when the dealer was showing a 4, and managed to get a 3.

It doesn't mean it was a good switch, and it doesn't mean that the announcers knew WTF they were talking about.

SPchief · 06-21-2007, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

...sorry that I actually watch Cards games and know the tendencies and splits of their players. Your manager should have too.

He hit on 17 when the dealer was showing a 4, and managed to get a 3.

It doesn't mean it was a good switch, and it doesn't mean that the announcers knew WTF they were talking about.

I'm pretty sure that Buddy Bell and Paul Splitorff don't watch every Card game.

CHENZ A! · 06-21-2007, 01:12 AM

Buddy and Paul are both goddam reeruns

BigRock · 06-21-2007, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Valiant

I guess Bell and the TV(former baseball players) announcers just disagree with you then on it being a great switch...

Add JoPo to the list of people who thought it was a good move. He wrote a column on it.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 06-21-2007, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by SPchief

I'm pretty sure that Buddy Bell and Paul Splitorff don't watch every Card game.

What are those things called that every team has?? Scouting reports, are they?

ChiefsCountry · 06-21-2007, 07:42 AM

Dumbest move of the whole night was not to walk Pujols in the 9th. You dont let him see any pitches especially when he is the only major threat.

duncan_idaho · 06-21-2007, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Dumbest move of the whole night was not to walk Pujols in the 9th. You dont let him see any pitches especially when he is the only major threat.

That puts the tying run in scoring position with a lefthander (Spiezio) who is a low-ball, fastball hitter coming up against Dotel - a lowball, fastball pitcher.

If first base is open? Sure, you walk Pujols...

Eleazar · 06-21-2007, 08:41 AM

We won 3 series out of 4, but I positively knew that this thread would be back up at the top again about proof as to why Buddy Bell loses 90-100 games for us singlehandedly this year.

Coach · 06-21-2007, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise

We won 3 series out of 4, but I positively knew that this thread would be back up at the top again about proof as to why Buddy Bell loses 90-100 games for us singlehandedly this year.

Well, has there been any improvement from the young players? Or any improvement from the pitching, outside of the bullpen who's doing well as of this moment.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, the Royals HAVE talent. The manager/coaches don't know what to DO with that talent.

It's frusterating.

BigRock · 06-21-2007, 05:27 PM

Jayson Stark is saying that, outside the Yanks, Cubs, and Mets, the one job Joe Girardi would consider is the Royals.

06-20-2007, 12:12 AM
petegz28 Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Olathe, Ks Casino cash: $2634127	Hi, My Name Is Buddy Bell.... And I suck as a manager. In fact I want you to call me Bob Boone 2.0! Yes that's right! I will surpass Bob Boone 1.0 for putting out a different line up every game. I will bat Shane Costa at clean up while I bench German and Brown. I will bench Shealy to play Gordon at 1st and German at 3rd and a rookie at 2nd base. I will not play John Buck more than 2 games in a row cause he is my best power hitter. I will REFUSE to bat him as a DH when he doesn't play at catcher. I will play Gathright in Left field even though DeJesus is better in Left and Gathright better in Center. I will send in Costa as a pinch-hitter in the 9th when I have a hot hitting John Buck sitting on the bench. Yes that is right. You will think Bob Boone 1.0 was a God by the time I am through showing you how much I can screw this team. Here is to me giving you another 100+ loss season.
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BigRock Pritay Pritay Pritay Good Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The State of Euphoria Casino cash: $3295412	Jayson Stark is saying that, outside the Yanks, Cubs, and Mets, the one job Joe Girardi would consider is the Royals.
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