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Mr. Laz · 10-30-2013, 05:07 PM

Jonathan Martin leaves Dolphins after 'breakdown'

By Dan Hanzus
Around the League Writer
Published: Oct. 30, 2013 at 06:39 p.m. Updated: Oct. 30, 2013 at 07:00 p.m.
An unusual situation is unfolding in Miami, where Dolphins right tackle Jonathan Martin has left the team after suffering an "emotional breakdown" this week.

NFL Media's Jeff Darlington reported Wednesday that Martin is currently seeking help with his family after an incident at the team's cafeteria, according to team sources.

Martin is listed on the team's injury report with an illness, and is doubtful to play Thursday against the Cincinnati Bengals. Fox NFL insider Jay Glazer reported that Martin was the victim of a prank at the cafeteria, becoming enraged enough to "smash his food tray on the ground."

The second-year pro has not been with the team since that time. Darlington reports that Martin immediately sought treatment at a local hospital. He has since left the hospital and is now spending time with his family, according to team sources.

Martin opened the season as the Dolphins' replacement for Jake Long at left tackle. He was moved to right tackle when the team acquired Bryant McKinnie via trade last week. Tyson Clabo is expected to start in Martin's place on Thursday.

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Garcia Bronco · 01-30-2014, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

he has plenty of friends in the league that defend him, his days are far from done.

Dolphins locker room different story.

His days I think are done because he left work and created a a mess for what appears to be dubious reasons.

BIG_DADDY · 01-30-2014, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

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"Jonathan Martin also raised concerns with Richie Incognito that he was not playing well, about how upset he was at being ranked by Pro Football Focus as among the worst lineman in the NFL, about his poor performance on the field, his demotion to right tackle and how he was concerned about what the outcome might be for his missing team meetings and about how he felt his job was at risk," Schamel said in his statement to Fox News.

"It was only after sharing these concerns, and Martin's abandonment of the team, that the bullying allegations were raised. Rather than deal with his poor on-field performance and myriad other issues, Martin is now hiding behind false allegations."
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This is pretty much it.

BIG_DADDY · 01-30-2014, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Incognito was one of the main guys asked to carry out the 'code red'. .

Code Red?

mcaj22 · 01-30-2014, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

His days I think are done because he left work and created a a mess for what appears to be dubious reasons.

he also played on a team with some of the bigger young names in the NFL right now (Sherman, Luck) with one of the better NFL coaches, Harbaugh.

He has Stanford teammates all over. Doug Baldwin, Coby Fleener, etc.

Seahawks, Colts, etc will take a flyer on him, Sherman and Luck and his Stanford pals have defended him in interviews all season, and if they have any clout in their respective team locker rooms (they do, come on) they could easily bang the drum for him and vouch. And then embrace him. And that's good PR, bullied boy goes to team that loves him and players that want him... Dolphins are jerks.

blaise · 01-30-2014, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I call bullshit. If I'm not mistaken, Ireland directed players to toughen Martin up. We don't know if Martin was texting back to play along, or if he was having a friendly text exchange. Both are incriminating to Martin, but there is a big difference between the two.

Here's what I feel like we know. Incognitos dad claimed Martin was suicidal. The dolphins GM knowing this instructed his players to toughen Martin up instead of handle the situation more delicately. Incognito was one of the main guys asked to carry out the 'code red'. I think the story is increasingly forgiving of incognito, but he doesn't have a good history to necessarily give him the benefit of the doubt. So to me, this still reeks of a completely bone headed way of managing a locker room.

I think Incognito is an idiot but you're kind of editorializing there. We don't really know what was said.

Garcia Bronco · 01-30-2014, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

he also played on a team with some of the bigger young names in the NFL right now (Sherman, Luck) with one of the better NFL coaches, Harbaugh.

He has Stanford teammates all over. Doug Baldwin, Coby Fleener, etc.

Seahawks, Colts, etc will take a flyer on him, Sherman and Luck and his Stanford pals have defended him in interviews all season, and if they have any clout in their respective team locker rooms (they do, come on) they could easily bang the drum for him and vouch. And then embrace him. And that's good PR, bullied boy goes to team that loves him and players that want him... Dolphins are jerks.

I just don;t see the managment taking him up. If I were an NFL GM...I wouldn't go near him.

Garcia Bronco · 01-30-2014, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I call bullshit. If I'm not mistaken, Ireland directed players to toughen Martin up. We don't know if Martin was texting back to play along, or if he was having a friendly text exchange. Both are incriminating to Martin, but there is a big difference between the two.

Here's what I feel like we know. Incognitos dad claimed Martin was suicidal. The dolphins GM knowing this instructed his players to toughen Martin up instead of handle the situation more delicately. Incognito was one of the main guys asked to carry out the 'code red'. I think the story is increasingly forgiving of incognito, but he doesn't have a good history to necessarily give him the benefit of the doubt. So to me, this still reeks of a completely bone headed way of managing a locker room.

ESPN released some of Martin's text today...they were just awful.

chiefzilla1501 · 01-30-2014, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by blaise

I think Incognito is an idiot but you're kind of editorializing there. We don't really know what was said.

I don't think I'm editorializing at all. I didn't bring up anything Incognito said. I am talking about a front office and coaching staff that decided to go with the "toughen him up" approach instead of handling the situation more delicately. If Incognito's Dad is right and Martin was suicidal, then that is unbelievably dumb advice.

**Rausch** · 01-30-2014, 04:09 PM

Incognito will be cheap next year.

Too soon?...

chiefzilla1501 · 01-30-2014, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

ESPN released some of Martin's text today...they were just awful.

Again... vindicates Incognito's texts, which I figured were joking a lot more than they were racist... But we have to be careful not to assume Martin texted what he did for fun. It's possible he did it just to fit in.

blaise · 01-30-2014, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I don't think I'm editorializing at all. I didn't bring up anything Incognito said. I am talking about a front office and coaching staff that decided to go with the "toughen him up" approach instead of handling the situation more delicately. If Incognito's Dad is right and Martin was suicidal, then that is unbelievably dumb advice.

What was the actual advice and what context was it given in?

For wll we know it was said in a joking manner or in an offhanded way. We don't know what was said so to portray it as ordering a code red is just an assumption based on limited information.

chiefzilla1501 · 01-30-2014, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by blaise

What was the actual advice and what context was it given in?

For wll we know it was said in a joking manner or in an offhanded way. We don't know what was said so to portray it as ordering a code red is just an assumption based on limited information.

Sorry if the word code red tripped you up. No, I didn't mean to imply they were calling for extreme hazing. Based on the stories, Incognito was asked to leave an over-the-top voicemail, coaches asked Incognito to toughen Martin up (and claim he went over the line). It sounded like Incognito was carrying out orders from an incompetent staff. What he actually did... we don't seem to know.

BIG_DADDY · 01-30-2014, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Again... vindicates Incognito's texts, which I figured were joking a lot more than they were racist... But we have to be careful not to assume Martin texted what he did for fun. It's possible he did it just to fit in.

So Ritchie's text count cause he is the perceived bully and since Martin is the perceived victim because he cried wolf his don't. Got it. Never mind the facts pertaining to his failing career or the fact that his parents are attorneys and there was a ton of money to be made here. Move along, nothing to see here.

chiefzilla1501 · 01-30-2014, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

So Ritchie's text count cause he is the perceived bully and since Martin is the perceived victim because he cried wolf his don't. Got it. Never mind the facts pertaining to his failing career or the fact that his parents are attorneys and there was a ton of money to be made here. Move along, nothing to see here.

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The Rick · 01-30-2014, 05:59 PM

Roger Goodell: DID you order the Code Red?

Jeff Ireland: YOU'RE GODDAMNED RIGHT I DID!!!!

Dolphins O-Line: What did we do wrong? WE DID NOTHING WRONG!

Incognito: Yeah we did. We were supposed to fight for people who couldn't protect themselves. We were supposed to protect Johnny.

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The Rick Veteran Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Milwaukee, WI Casino cash: $7591320	Roger Goodell: DID you order the Code Red? Jeff Ireland: YOU'RE GODDAMNED RIGHT I DID!!!! Dolphins O-Line: What did we do wrong? WE DID NOTHING WRONG! Incognito: Yeah we did. We were supposed to fight for people who couldn't protect themselves. We were supposed to protect Johnny.
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