Football Russell Wilson - Page 8

Hammock Parties · 01-13-2013, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks

how many did RGIII's receivers drop? I'm curious, because I watched a lot of Skins games and I remember a lot of drops.

37.

The Seahawks only had 26 drops.

Hootie · 01-13-2013, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus

37.

The Seahawks only had 26 drops.

the Redskins had 37 drops, the Colts had 50...how many more passes did the Colts throw than the Redskins?

I bet the ratio per attempt for Washington is WAY higher than Indianapolis.

Hammock Parties · 01-13-2013, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks

the Redskins had 37 drops, the Colts had 50...how many more passes did the Colts throw than the Redskins?

I bet the ratio per attempt for Washington is WAY higher than Indianapolis.

Do you think RGIII or Russell Wilson would have had nearly the success they did if they had to throw 600 passes?

Hootie · 01-13-2013, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus

Do you think RGIII or Russell Wilson would have had nearly the success they did if they had to throw 600 passes?

RGIII no.

Wilson, yes.

After the first 6 weeks, I don't know what it was...but something clicked. The read option helped add another twist to their offense and then once Seattle started keeping defenses on their toes Wilson became an elite QB.

He has played like an elite QB now for 3 months. He has been the best QB in the playoffs so far. He does things only Russel Wilson can do.

I mean, what I witnessed today was just mind blowing. He made me forget about Colin Kaepernick's mind blowing performance from a day ago.

Hootie · 01-13-2013, 08:40 PM

well of course they had better running games

that's what happens when you have QB's who can run and make the defense account for it

Vick...even Vince Young proved that in the past.

I'm sorry. Alfred Morris is not an ELITE running back. The fact he fared so well is A) that was THEIR offense and B) you had to pick your poison between RGIII taking it outside the edge or Morris taking it between the tackles.

I mean, that's just not even a good arguing point for Luck.

Can I see Luck developing into an all-time great? Yes. Absolutely.

Was he even close to Wilson's level this year? No. Not at all.

I'm sorry. Russel Wilson played 3 near flawless months of football on an offense that doesn't have elite playmakers other than Russel Wilson.

Hammock Parties · 01-13-2013, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks

I'm sorry. Alfred Morris is not an ELITE running back. .

Alfred Morris forced more missed tackles than everyone except Adrian Peterson and Marshawn Lynch.

He's kickass.

Lynch and Morris are pretty ****ing awesome...and Luck's RBs are garbage.

Hootie · 01-13-2013, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus

Alfred Morris forced more missed tackles than everyone except Adrian Peterson and Marshawn Lynch.

He's kickass.

Lynch and Morris are pretty ****ing awesome...and Luck's RBs are garbage.

Lynch, Morris AND Ballard are system ****ing backs.

Did those 3 lead the NFL in carries, too?

Cephalic Trauma · 01-13-2013, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus

Alfred Morris forced more missed tackles than everyone except Adrian Peterson and Marshawn Lynch.

He's kickass.

Lynch and Morris are pretty ****ing awesome...and Luck's RBs are garbage.

Can you attribute any of those missed tackles to a tired defense that has to chase RGIII around?

Hammock Parties · 01-13-2013, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma

Can you attribute any of those missed tackles to a tired defense that has to chase RGIII around?

No, but at this point RGIII and Russell Wilson are already going in the Hootie Hall of Fame so why bother arguing.

ThaVirus · 01-13-2013, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks

I was called reactionary today but I simply believe Wilson is better than Luck. I'd honestly take Wilson over every QB in the NFL right now. Him or Rodgers. That's who I'd build a franchise around if I was given that luxury.

can't say enough about him, the Seahawks and Pete Carrol. That was the most impressive loss I've seen in recent history.

Yeah, that was me

and I think that's obvious now. Your jaws HAVE to be sore as shit right now. Seriously, you've been fellating this guy for the past 7 hours..

Wilson over Rodgers for one game? Come on, man. I could understand if you were staring a franchise because Wilson's like 6 years his junior, but he's NOT better than Rodgers right now.

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Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma

Did you see what russell wilson did today with most would consider inferior talent?

I would take the packers' supporting cast over what russell wilson has to work with.

I think its a fair point, though I don't exactly agree.

What? The Packers have a shit team outside of Rodgers and those receivers (one could make the argument that Rodgers makes them look better than they are).

Their run game is non-existant and the defense might as well lay down on every drive. Meanwhile, Wilson was blessed with the best defense in the league and one of the better RBs. His receivers are below average, in my opinion, but they're serviceable.

Cephalic Trauma · 01-13-2013, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Yeah, that was me

and I think that's obvious now. Your jaws HAVE to be sore as shit right now. Seriously, you've been fellating this guy for the past 7 hours..

Wilson over Rodgers for one game? Come on, man. I could understand if you were staring a franchise because Wilson's like 6 years his junior, but he's NOT better than Rodgers right now.

What? The Packers have a shit team outside of Rodgers and those receivers (one could make the argument that Rodgers makes them look better than they are).

Their run game is non-existant and the defense might as well lay down on every drive. Meanwhile, Wilson was blessed with the best defense in the league and one of the better RBs. His receivers are below average, in my opinion, but they're serviceable.

I was just talking offense. You're right, the packers defense is terrible. But those receivers made some great plays last night, as they always do. And the newfound running game almost seemed to hurt Rodgers' game than enhance it.

I still would take the Packers receivers(Greg Jennings, James Jones, Jordy Nelson, Jermichael Finley) over what seattle has (Sidney Rice, Golden Tate, Zach Miller). And I'd take Mccarthy whoever Seattle has. Fact is, Matt ****ing Flynn looked like an all-pro with the same supporting cast, and that has to count for something.

Maybe it's just the fact that I've been studying for 10 hours and I'm going a little insane.

Hootie · 01-13-2013, 08:42 PM

I hope no one takes this as me "bashing" Luck. I know he'll be great.

He just wasn't nearly on the same level as Wilson. No way.

tk13 · 01-13-2013, 08:44 PM

I'm pretty sure you took a blow to the head while you were banned and need to see a doctor. Wilson had a great year but to imply he's miles ahead of Luck when Luck threw for more yards than any rookie QB in the history of football, led the league in 4th quarter wins and carried his team to the playoffs is insane. This is worse than your takes yesterday, and those were horrible.

milkman · 01-13-2013, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

I'm pretty sure you took a blow to the head while you were banned and need to see a doctor. Wilson had a great year but to imply he's miles ahead of Luck when Luck threw for more yards than any rookie QB in the history of football, led the league in 4th quarter wins and carried his team to the playoffs is insane. This is worse than your takes yesterday, and those were horrible.

Yards are a poor measuring stick.

Hootie · 01-13-2013, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

I'm pretty sure you took a blow to the head while you were banned and need to see a doctor. Wilson had a great year but to imply he's miles ahead of Luck when Luck threw for more yards than any rookie QB in the history of football, led the league in 4th quarter wins and carried his team to the playoffs is insane. This is worse than your takes yesterday, and those were horrible.

Perhaps my Denver takes were off, maybe even by a lot.

But I also predicted the 49ers to win and said Kaepernick was vastly underrated...but I'm glad you only cherry pick certain takes.

I also picked the Falcons and I also said the Patriots would win in blowout fashion.

So I was 3 for god damn 4.

and I still think Von Miller is better than Dwight Freeney and I still think Demaryius Thomas is more talented than Marvin Kennison.

01-13-2013, 08:40 PM	#5
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	well of course they had better running games that's what happens when you have QB's who can run and make the defense account for it Vick...even Vince Young proved that in the past. I'm sorry. Alfred Morris is not an ELITE running back. The fact he fared so well is A) that was THEIR offense and B) you had to pick your poison between RGIII taking it outside the edge or Morris taking it between the tackles. I mean, that's just not even a good arguing point for Luck. Can I see Luck developing into an all-time great? Yes. Absolutely. Was he even close to Wilson's level this year? No. Not at all. I'm sorry. Russel Wilson played 3 near flawless months of football on an offense that doesn't have elite playmakers other than Russel Wilson.
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01-13-2013, 08:42 PM	#12
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	I hope no one takes this as me "bashing" Luck. I know he'll be great. He just wasn't nearly on the same level as Wilson. No way.
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01-13-2013, 08:44 PM	#13
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $1802500	I'm pretty sure you took a blow to the head while you were banned and need to see a doctor. Wilson had a great year but to imply he's miles ahead of Luck when Luck threw for more yards than any rookie QB in the history of football, led the league in 4th quarter wins and carried his team to the playoffs is insane. This is worse than your takes yesterday, and those were horrible.
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