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Old 02-04-2013, 10:39 AM   #1
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The non-call when Crabtree was held in the end zone was total bullshit. The announcers tried to justify the non-call by saying both guys were putting their hands on each other. To me it looked like Crabtree was held and was trying to fight off the guy holding him. That would have been the winning touchdown. I like the idea of letting guys play, but that doesn't mean you let the defense get away with murder. (Unless it's Ray Lewis, of course.) :-)

If the zebras are going to make that extremely questionable PI call that kept the Ravens drive alive that led to the winning field goal, they ought to at least be consistent.
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Old 02-04-2013, 10:40 AM   #2
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The non-call when Crabtree was held in the end zone was total bullshit. The announcers tried to justify the non-call by saying both guys were putting their hands on each other. To me it looked like Crabtree was held and was trying to fight off the guy holding him. That would have been the winning touchdown. I like the idea of letting guys play, but that doesn't mean you let the defense get away with murder. (Unless it's Ray Lewis, of course.) :-)

If the zebras are going to make that extremely questionable PI call that kept the Ravens drive alive that led to the winning field goal, they ought to at least be consistent.
The holding call at the end wasn't going to happen. No way the refs call that....especially because of the situation.
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Old 02-04-2013, 10:41 AM   #3
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The non-call when Crabtree was held in the end zone was total bullshit. The announcers tried to justify the non-call by saying both guys were putting their hands on each other. To me it looked like Crabtree was held and was trying to fight off the guy holding him. That would have been the winning touchdown. I like the idea of letting guys play, but that doesn't mean you let the defense get away with murder. (Unless it's Ray Lewis, of course.) :-)

If the zebras are going to make that extremely questionable PI call that kept the Ravens drive alive that led to the winning field goal, they ought to at least be consistent.
Was it really catchable though?
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Old 02-04-2013, 10:43 AM   #4
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Was it really catchable though?
I didn't think so. It landed pretty far OB. He could have caught it, but no way he gets two feet down in bounds.
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Old 02-04-2013, 10:44 AM   #5
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Was it really catchable though?
No doubt it was.
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Old 02-04-2013, 11:46 AM   #6
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No doubt it was.
Sure he could have made a spectacular catch but he was not going to get both feet in bounds. The contact between both players was such that it could have been called either way which made it a non-call, IMO. Too many variables for it to have been considered a flagrant foul.
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Old 02-04-2013, 11:53 AM   #7
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Sure he could have made a spectacular catch but he was not going to get both feet in bounds. The contact between both players was such that it could have been called either way which made it a non-call, IMO. Too many variables for it to have been considered a flagrant foul.
I agree that with the way the game went you don't throw a flag there, but that's a catchable ball. It would be a great catch but catchable none the less.
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Old 02-04-2013, 12:02 PM   #8
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I agree that with the way the game went you don't throw a flag there, but that's a catchable ball. It would be a great catch but catchable none the less.
It was probably catchable but in bounds is another question. I'm sure there is someone skilled at video editing and math who is working on this question as we speak.

Not to mention, he makes a great catch and manages to keep his feet in bounds, does he keep possession or drop the ball when he lands arms first on the ball? The what ifs could go on forever. I prefer a non-call to a botched call ANY DAY!
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Old 02-04-2013, 12:07 PM   #9
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It was probably catchable but in bounds is another question. I'm sure there is someone skilled at video editing and math who is working on this question as we speak.

Not to mention, he makes a great catch and manages to keep his feet in bounds, does he keep possession or drop the ball when he lands arms first on the ball? The what ifs could go on forever. I prefer a non-call to a botched call ANY DAY!
I'll have to watch it again, but I thought it hit about 1 yard out of bounds which is catchable without a doubt.
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Old 02-04-2013, 10:42 AM   #10
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The non-call when Crabtree was held in the end zone was total bullshit. The announcers tried to justify the non-call by saying both guys were putting their hands on each other. To me it looked like Crabtree was held and was trying to fight off the guy holding him. That would have been the winning touchdown. I like the idea of letting guys play, but that doesn't mean you let the defense get away with murder. (Unless it's Ray Lewis, of course.) :-)

If the zebras are going to make that extremely questionable PI call that kept the Ravens drive alive that led to the winning field goal, they ought to at least be consistent.
Herm said on the radio this morning that once Crabtree ran into and iniated the contact with Williams that there was no way a flag was coming out.
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Herm said on the radio this morning that once Crabtree ran into and iniated the contact with Williams that there was no way a flag was coming out.
Did Crabtree really initiate contact? Watching the replay, it looks like he touches the DB at almost the exact same time that the DB grabs him.
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Did Crabtree really initiate contact? Watching the replay, it looks like he touches the DB at almost the exact same time that the DB grabs him.
Well, the jam started within 5 yds and I thought all grasping stopped by the time they hit the end zone. However, the DB still had his arms extended around the WR impede his progress while Crabtree was pushing off of the DB's helmet trying to get free.

I want to bitch about it kinda b/c I was pulling for the 49ers, but as has been said, drawing of a fade route with the game on the line is an awful idea. That said, BAL went blitz(yes?) and that's a good way to beat that. Same goes for the play earlier in the game when Kap threw a fade to Moss. BAL sells out, but Moss ran a slant which Kap couldn't hit b/c Reed was in the way. I was wondering if Moss just had a bad read and ran the wrong route.
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That safety resulted in a lot of quarter pots and square number holders going from elation to

I was one of them.
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That safety resulted in a lot of quarter pots and square number holders going from elation to

I was one of them.
I lost a huge bet with that ****ing safety. I was soooooooo pissed!!!!! I wanted to throw stuff.
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I lost a huge bet with that ****ing safety. I was soooooooo pissed!!!!! I wanted to throw stuff.
It cost me $100 which was no big deal, but it cost some other dude 1K in our pool. That might be a little tougher to swallow.
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