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Old 04-27-2005, 01:06 PM  
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Congressman: NFL's Steroids Policy 'Not Perfect'; Bill Coming Soon

And the micromanagement of all sports by our government grows. What a crock of shit. They are getting ready to pass a bill in California that will impliment mandatory steroid testing for all high school students in sports.


Congressman: NFL's Steroids Policy 'Not Perfect'; Bill Coming Soon
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By HOWARD FENDRICH
WASHINGTON (AP) - The NFL's steroids policy is tough, "but it's not perfect," the head of a congressional committee said Wednesday, adding that he plans to introduce a bill governing drug testing across the spectrum of U.S. sports.

Rep. Tom Davis opened the House Government Reform Committee's second hearing on steroids by saying the NFL had been more cooperative than Major League Baseball was when its drug program was examined publicly by the panel last month.

But saying that all sports leagues must "acknowledge that their testing programs need improvement," the Virginia Republican added that he and ranking Democrat Henry Waxman of California, along with Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., are working on legislation to create uniform policies for major sports.

Such an effort would face obstacles in Congress, which has been reluctant to legislate professional sports policy over the years.

In prepared testimony submitted to the committee, NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue and NFL Players Association chief executive Gene Upshaw said the league is tripling from two to six the number of random offseason tests that players can face.


They also said the league and union recently agreed to add new substances to the list of banned performance enhancers; to put in writing previously agreed-to policies to test for designer steroids; and to lower the testosterone ratio threshold.

"There are numerous issues on which management and labor disagree. ... But there is complete agreement on this: Steroids and other performance-enhancing substances have no place in our game, or anywhere in sports," Upshaw said.

He and Tagliabue sat next to each other and each occasionally jotted notes while some lawmakers criticized the NFL's penalties as too lenient and raised questions about whether amphetamines should be banned.

"Some people might think that this is a fairly weak policy," said Rep. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt.

While boosting strength, steroids can lead to heart attacks, strokes, cancer, sterility and mood swings; using most steroids without a doctor's prescription for medical purposes has been illegal since 1991.

The NFL began testing in 1987, added suspensions in 1989, and instituted year-round random testing in 1990. Fifty-four players have been suspended.

"The percentage of NFL players who test positive for steroids is very low," Waxman said. "Is this because the policy is working or is this because players have figured out how to avoid detection?"

Tagliabue and Upshaw were among 10 witnesses scheduled to appear, including two doctors who supervise the NFL's testing, and two high school football coaches, one of whom suspended 10 of his players for using steroids.

Gary Wadler, a member of the World Anti-Doping Agency that oversees Olympic drug testing and penalties, knocked the NFL policy for leaving out amphetamines, and he urged the league to adopt blood testing to detect Human Growth Hormone.

In contrast to the March 17 baseball hearing, when several active or retired stars were subpoenaed to testify to much fanfare, only one former player was invited Wednesday: Steve Courson, an offensive lineman for the Pittsburgh Steelers and Tampa Bay Buccaneers from 1978-85. He has admitted using steroids and blames that for a heart condition.

Courson delivered his statement to dozens of empty chairs: Only one member of the committee was present, because others left for a floor vote. Later, when asked by Waxman what percentage of pro football players use steroids today, Courson said: "That would be very hard for me to determine. I've been out of the game for 20 years."

Baseball banned steroids in September 2002 and instituted mandatory 10-day suspensions this season. The National Hockey League does not test players for performance-enhancing drugs, while first-time offenders are suspended for five games in the National Basketball Association.

In the NFL, a first positive test draws a four-game ban - a quarter of the season - and a second gets a six-game suspension. Only two players failed tests twice, and they both retired.

"It's a policy with tough penalties that's getting tougher all the time. But it's not perfect, and that's one of the reasons we're here today," Davis said. "The NFL's testing program has come under heightened scrutiny in recent weeks."

He mentioned a CBS report that a South Carolina doctor wrote steroid prescriptions for three Carolina Panthers in 2003.
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Old 04-28-2005, 01:01 PM   #46
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Old 04-28-2005, 03:42 PM   #47
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had a hard stance for more govt.......though i think he kinda got lost in his own rhetoric sometimes.None the less he took a hard stance.
Guys, I am closer to your philosophy than I am letting on here. The whole reason that I chose to "throw down" with Big D here is that he is becoming fervent with his anti government threads, almost to the point of obsession. I am just trying to see where this is all coming from, and where is the line, if any, on whether or not he believes there SHOULD be a government.

My Philosophy teacher in College was a self described, "Card Carrying Libertarian", and I have a good Idea on what his position was on the proper scope and function of the government was. I posited the question to Troy wondering if I would get a similar answer as the prof, as most Libertarians have well thought out positions.

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I guess it's because of the lime light but why is congress so concerned about the small number of people that are employed by the NFL? Perhaps they should police the HS and College athletes instead of the pros? Seems to me that would be a much wider and far reaching tact.


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Old 04-28-2005, 05:10 PM   #49
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Guys, I am closer to your philosophy than I am letting on here. The whole reason that I chose to "throw down" with Big D here is that he is becoming fervent with his anti government threads, almost to the point of obsession. I am just trying to see where this is all coming from, and where is the line, if any, on whether or not he believes there SHOULD be a government.

My Philosophy teacher in College was a self described, "Card Carrying Libertarian", and I have a good Idea on what his position was on the proper scope and function of the government was. I posited the question to Troy wondering if I would get a similar answer as the prof, as most Libertarians have well thought out positions.

Thats all.
No biggy, my passion is probably rooted in living the The People's Republic of California where most of our polititians don't deserve the air they breath.
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I guess it's because of the lime light but why is congress so concerned about the small number of people that are employed by the NFL? Perhaps they should police the HS and College athletes instead of the pros? Seems to me that would be a much wider and far reaching tact.


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There doing that here in California. Apparently we have money to spend to test all the kids in sports we just don't have enough money to keep the schools open, go figure.
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