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Mile High Mania · 11-17-2004, 06:16 PM

Ok, Pats Fan... here you go.

My "outside objective view" to this game is as follows:

KC has beaten the Ravens and the Colts, while losing to the likes of the Saints, Bucs and Panthers. They have lost 2 games at home, but the last time they were on Monday Night Football... just happened to be a win at Baltimore.

This team is a damn mystery to figure out.

The Patriots are doing really well, but the defense can be beat. The lack of Holmes will hurt KC, but if Blaylock can keep his focus, he can have success.

I think this will be a struggle for two quarters - the 2nd and 3rd - with most of the action coming early and late. I see the Chiefs making a game of it, but this will actually turn into a good game with Vinitieri winning it late for the Patriots.

I don't say this b/c I don't like KC ... I just think the better team will win, but the Chiefs at Arrowhead on MNF will make a game of it.

Your turn.

Pats Fan · 11-17-2004, 07:01 PM

Username - I should also say that most of our draft choices are out for most of the year. We had some really good prospects on the offensive side that are not playing. One Watson (TE), man this guy reminded me of Ben Coates. Really, really good. Hope to see him back soon. Also, we drafted a big WR - PK Sam. Out. One problem we have on the receiving side is that most are small. They are called the smurfs. That's OK. They do pretty good. Like I said before, coaching and Brady. They make the difference in our team. Brady goes down, the Pats are going into a big slide. Big time.

But based upon what I am reading you have two teams. Which one will show up. You have the advantage. You play at home. For the Pats, that is huge. HUGE. Hope the Hyde team shows up for KC. Sorry, just showing my bias.

Demonpenz · 11-17-2004, 07:03 PM

As far as Dillon, he doesn't scare me. He's the type of runner that we have success against. He's not terribly fast or shifty, just a hard runner. KC does a good job of plugging the initial gap, it's the cutback lanes that kill us. Dillon doesn't cut that hard.

Sort of Michael Pittman kind of runner

Pats Fan · 11-17-2004, 07:06 PM

I would not underestimate Dillon. I think that is a mistake. This guy plays with heart. I think Dillon will be a big factor in the game. Brady cannot throw all the time. When Dillon was out, we got beat. We really do not have a good backup runner. We had Cloud, but BB got rid of him. That really bumed me out. I really liked the guy.

Regardless, should be a good game.

Sure-Oz · 11-17-2004, 07:08 PM

I expect a win and a good effort by our D, being home will help.

Pats Fan · 11-17-2004, 07:09 PM

Off folks, things to do. I think the KC team and fans are class acts. Get you folks going and you talk great football without throwing the barbs. Don't need those, after all, it is only a football game. I learned some good insight into your team, and will learn more before the week is out. Hope we in New England do not have to turn out the lights on Monday night.

Wallcrawler · 11-17-2004, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz

As far as Dillon, he doesn't scare me. He's the type of runner that we have success against. He's not terribly fast or shifty, just a hard runner. KC does a good job of plugging the initial gap, it's the cutback lanes that kill us. Dillon doesn't cut that hard.

Sort of Michael Pittman kind of runner

Yeah, but I seem to remember Michael Pittman busting out for 78 yards against us too.

Basicly, you could suit anybody up in an opposing uniform and let them take the field against the Chiefs defense, and they would worry me. Their lack of focus is like nothing I have ever seen. I bet my grandmother could bust a big one on the Chief defense.

It wouldnt surprise me to see the Chiefs pull it off though. They beat the good teams, and fall to the teams that they should destroy. But without Priest holmes, I dont see it happening. Shoot. Even with Priest Holmes it would be one hell of an upset, Arrowhead stadium or not. They way this team is playing, they would be lucky if some college teams couldnt beat them.

NewChief · 11-17-2004, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Pats Fan

I would not underestimate Dillon. I think that is a mistake. This guy plays with heart. I think Dillon will be a big factor in the game. Brady cannot throw all the time. When Dillon was out, we got beat. We really do not have a good backup runner. We had Cloud, but BB got rid of him. That really bumed me out. I really liked the guy.

Regardless, should be a good game.

I'd say how bad Dillon hurts us depends on how long your coaches are willing to stick with the running game. There's a chance that we can stuff him pretty good for quite a few plays, but if they're willing to stick with it, he'll eventually break one for some distance. Of course, as many other teams have noticed (Tampa), there's no real reason to even run on us. We're so freaking vulnerable to the passing game that you can exploit it all night.

Hammock Parties · 11-17-2004, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz

As far as Dillon, he doesn't scare me. He's the type of runner that we have success against. He's not terribly fast or shifty, just a hard runner. KC does a good job of plugging the initial gap, it's the cutback lanes that kill us. Dillon doesn't cut that hard.

Sort of Michael Pittman kind of runner

The Chiefs did a good job against Pittman apart from one run.

Wallcrawler · 11-17-2004, 07:19 PM

Bill Belichick is one of the greatest coaches ive seen in terms of gameplanning.

Honestly, the guy has to be salivating at putting his squad out there against the Chiefs. He will have the patience to stick with the run, but as was mentioned, the pass defense is so weak right now that they most likely will have nothing to worry about.

The d line gets little to no pressure on the QB, and with a guy like Brady, thats a good recipe for disaster.

jspchief · 11-17-2004, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by NewChief

I'd say how bad Dillon hurts us depends on how long your coaches are willing to stick with the running game. There's a chance that we can stuff him pretty good for quite a few plays, but if they're willing to stick with it, he'll eventually break one for some distance. Of course, as many other teams have noticed (Tampa), there's no real reason to even run on us. We're so freaking vulnerable to the passing game that you can exploit it all night.

My sentiments exactly. The Baltimore game is the perfect example. We held Lewis enough in the first half to take them away from the run. Later in the game he started shredding us, but it was too little too late. We have played solid run D in the first half of most games and Belichick is famous for not committing to the run.

redfan · 11-17-2004, 07:53 PM

I say 30-21

. We win only because its MNF and the

will try to milk every ounce of emotion from the loyal fan before stomping on his heart again in this abortion of a season. Win the battle(Pats game), lose the war (the season). Top 10 pick here we come!!

SEPatsFan · 11-17-2004, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

and Belichick is famous for not committing to the run.

I tend to disagree with you here. The Pats have been very constant about at least trying to run the ball. Even with no running game to speak of last year, the backs still got around 20 touches a game. To this point Dillion is averaging 22 per game (not counting the game he missed)

The Pitt game was an aberition because we got way down early because of two turnovers. That game we had no running games because we were down, and because it is the game Dillion sat out.

Monday should be a good game, but I expect that the game plan will be similar to the one against Buffalo. Scheme will be diffrent, plan will be the same. Take (or at least slow down) the running game, get a lead, and make you pass to catch up.

**Bowser** · 11-17-2004, 08:28 PM

It will be too tempting for the Pats to not pass against us. Our secondary is playing like a bunch of cooches, and Brady is deadly in the short to medium range passes. I expect to see Dillon used as we use Priest with a lot of draws and quick hitting stuff.

If our offense can avoid the turnover problem of the last few weeks, we'll have a legitimate chance. At this point, though, that's a big "if".

I fully expect to see almost 80 points put up by the two teams.

**Skip Towne** · 11-17-2004, 08:34 PM

I try to get up for this game but I just can't. The Pats will grind us into the turf. There won't be anything left but a grease spot.

**Bowser** · 11-17-2004, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne

I try to get up for this game but I just can't. The Pats will grind us into the turf. There won't be anything left but a grease spot.

Just think if Haslett can outcoach Vermeil & co., what is Bellichick and his staff going to do?

11-17-2004, 06:16 PM
Mile High Mania #triggering Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Tejas Casino cash: $3647229	For Pats Fan: Patriots - Chiefs pre game chatter Ok, Pats Fan... here you go. My "outside objective view" to this game is as follows: KC has beaten the Ravens and the Colts, while losing to the likes of the Saints, Bucs and Panthers. They have lost 2 games at home, but the last time they were on Monday Night Football... just happened to be a win at Baltimore. This team is a damn mystery to figure out. The Patriots are doing really well, but the defense can be beat. The lack of Holmes will hurt KC, but if Blaylock can keep his focus, he can have success. I think this will be a struggle for two quarters - the 2nd and 3rd - with most of the action coming early and late. I see the Chiefs making a game of it, but this will actually turn into a good game with Vinitieri winning it late for the Patriots. I don't say this b/c I don't like KC ... I just think the better team will win, but the Chiefs at Arrowhead on MNF will make a game of it. Your turn.
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11-17-2004, 07:01 PM	#31
Pats Fan Starter Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Providence Ri Casino cash: $10004900	Username - I should also say that most of our draft choices are out for most of the year. We had some really good prospects on the offensive side that are not playing. One Watson (TE), man this guy reminded me of Ben Coates. Really, really good. Hope to see him back soon. Also, we drafted a big WR - PK Sam. Out. One problem we have on the receiving side is that most are small. They are called the smurfs. That's OK. They do pretty good. Like I said before, coaching and Brady. They make the difference in our team. Brady goes down, the Pats are going into a big slide. Big time. But based upon what I am reading you have two teams. Which one will show up. You have the advantage. You play at home. For the Pats, that is huge. HUGE. Hope the Hyde team shows up for KC. Sorry, just showing my bias.
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11-17-2004, 07:03 PM	#32
Demonpenz I got Rice cookin in the micro Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Apartment "G UNIT!" Casino cash: $3102136	As far as Dillon, he doesn't scare me. He's the type of runner that we have success against. He's not terribly fast or shifty, just a hard runner. KC does a good job of plugging the initial gap, it's the cutback lanes that kill us. Dillon doesn't cut that hard. Sort of Michael Pittman kind of runner __________________
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11-17-2004, 07:06 PM	#33
Pats Fan Starter Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Providence Ri Casino cash: $10004900	I would not underestimate Dillon. I think that is a mistake. This guy plays with heart. I think Dillon will be a big factor in the game. Brady cannot throw all the time. When Dillon was out, we got beat. We really do not have a good backup runner. We had Cloud, but BB got rid of him. That really bumed me out. I really liked the guy. Regardless, should be a good game.
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11-17-2004, 07:09 PM	#35
Pats Fan Starter Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Providence Ri Casino cash: $10004900	Off folks, things to do. I think the KC team and fans are class acts. Get you folks going and you talk great football without throwing the barbs. Don't need those, after all, it is only a football game. I learned some good insight into your team, and will learn more before the week is out. Hope we in New England do not have to turn out the lights on Monday night.
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11-17-2004, 07:19 PM	#39
Wallcrawler How tall is this thing? Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ground 0 for enema of US. Casino cash: $4222912	Bill Belichick is one of the greatest coaches ive seen in terms of gameplanning. Honestly, the guy has to be salivating at putting his squad out there against the Chiefs. He will have the patience to stick with the run, but as was mentioned, the pass defense is so weak right now that they most likely will have nothing to worry about. The d line gets little to no pressure on the QB, and with a guy like Brady, thats a good recipe for disaster. __________________ She did not open her eyes this morning. I don't know what else to say.
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11-17-2004, 07:53 PM	#41
redfan They gon' regret that trade!! Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: We've lost Luka Casino cash: $1931852	I say 30-21 . We win only because its MNF and the will try to milk every ounce of emotion from the loyal fan before stomping on his heart again in this abortion of a season. Win the battle(Pats game), lose the war (the season). Top 10 pick here we come!! __________________ KC CHIEFS SB IV LIV LVII LVIII CHAMPIONS "65 Toss Power Trap!" "Triple Gun Trey Right 3 Jet Chip Wasp Y Funnel" "Orange You, Duo Left 30 XL 35 Y Corn Dog" "Trips Right Bunch F Shuttle, Tom&Jerry Right Yellow. Orange, Let's GO!!"
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11-17-2004, 08:28 PM	#43
Bowser sorta mod-ish Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: KC North Casino cash: $3411616	It will be too tempting for the Pats to not pass against us. Our secondary is playing like a bunch of cooches, and Brady is deadly in the short to medium range passes. I expect to see Dillon used as we use Priest with a lot of draws and quick hitting stuff. If our offense can avoid the turnover problem of the last few weeks, we'll have a legitimate chance. At this point, though, that's a big "if". I fully expect to see almost 80 points put up by the two teams.
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11-17-2004, 08:34 PM	#44
Skip Towne Supporter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: T-Town Casino cash: $10004900	I try to get up for this game but I just can't. The Pats will grind us into the turf. There won't be anything left but a grease spot.
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