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Old 07-26-2010, 12:51 AM  
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Season 4 premiered tonight. I would have bumped the season three thread but I titled it "season 3," which no longer seems appropriate.

Who saw it? It was a stupendous hour of television. All sorts of shit has happened in the eleven months that have passed (in-story) between the formation of Sterling Cooper Draper Price and the beginning of season 4. The premeir was stepped in the juices of the sexual revolution. It also had a lot to say about the increasing role of the media in the success or failure of things. It was great to see Don fail a little bit, and it was exciting to consider the future implications at the end of Don crafting a public/media persona that is completely unlike his actual personality.
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Old 05-11-2015, 11:26 PM   #901
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The final scene should be: Don in the doctor's office.
No offense but that doesn't make any sense. AIDS was spread in the late 70's and early 80's by homosexuals and IV drug users, not guys that banged 100 women (or whatever).

Plus, that would be an awful ending that has nothing to do with the narrative.
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Old 05-11-2015, 11:29 PM   #902
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No offense but that doesn't make any sense. AIDS was spread in the late 70's and early 80's by homosexuals and IV drug users, not guys that banged 100 women (or whatever).

Plus, that would be an awful ending that has nothing to do with the narrative.
SOMEONE who wasn't gay had AIDS in the early 70s.

Personally I think it would be ****ing hilarious. All that ****ing finally caught up to Don.
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Old 05-11-2015, 11:31 PM   #903
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SOMEONE who wasn't gay had AIDS in the early 70s.

Personally I think it would be ****ing hilarious. All that ****ing finally caught up to Don.
The narrative isn't about the affairs or sex.

If AIDS was about heterosexuals, the species would be eradicated, especially if you factor in rock stars, movies stars, porn stars, etc.

No offense but that's naive and silly.
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Old 05-11-2015, 11:37 PM   #904
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The narrative isn't about the affairs or sex.

If AIDS was about heterosexuals, the species would be eradicated, especially if you factor in rock stars, movies stars, porn stars, etc.

No offense but that's naive and silly.
I love that you're softening your response with "no offense" but it's Clay. He can handle it.


Your idea sucks, Clay. You know what is a good plot line with AIDS?

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The end. Lylab. Have a nice day.
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Old 05-11-2015, 11:38 PM   #905
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The narrative isn't about the affairs or sex.
It's about Don trying to find himself/happiness, if you ask me. And he constantly uses sex as a method to achieve it.

Therefore, AIDs would be hilarious. And fitting, since he's such a jerk.
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Don's not dying of a disease to end the show. Weiner already shot that wad with
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Shit, if they go the time jump ending I expect Don to be 90 years old with a cigarette hanging from his mouth.
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Old 05-11-2015, 11:43 PM   #907
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Don's not dying of a disease to end the show. Weiner already shot that wad with
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Shit, if they go the time jump ending I expect Don to be 90 years old with a cigarette hanging from his mouth.


Hanging at a VFW telling stories about killing his CO with a lighter?

Wiener is going to do better. I'm expecting something worthwhile.
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Wiener is going to do better. I'm expecting something worthwhile.
My point is we're more likely to see a content as **** Dick Whitman working on a car in a barn-garage with Bobby and Gene looking on with all three sipping Co-ca-colll-las then seeing Don die to a smoking or sexing related disease.
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It's about Don trying to find himself/happiness, if you ask me. And he constantly uses sex as a method to achieve it.

Therefore, AIDs would be hilarious. And fitting, since he's such a jerk.
I'd suggest you re-watch after you've seen all of the episodes.

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Hanging at a VFW telling stories about killing his CO with a lighter?

Wiener is going to do better. I'm expecting something worthwhile.
As am I. Whether that happens remains to be seen.

I'll be surprised if he does not succeed.
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I'd suggest you re-watch after you've seen all of the episodes.

Not everything in life meets the eye.
Oh please, Dane. It's a TV show. It's open to interpretation.
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My dream final episode:

Draper gets off the Bus at Union Station, KC. thumbs a ride to Kaufman Sports complex, and the brand newly-completed Arrowhead Stadium. You can still smell the paint on the walls and the hear the CHING! of the cash registers from the high beer prices.

He walks on as WR Bob West. In his first year he catches 9 receptions for a total of 162 yards and 2 TDs (more than the entire Chiefs WR corp in 2015) Sadly, that wold be his best year, and he is out of the NFL by 1975.

Peggy goes on to leave McCann to marry a lucrative client and live in a Miami Penthouse much like Draper's NY digs. She becomes an alcoholic and her kids grow up alone.

Joan moves to Los Angeles with that rich guy and opens a women's lingerie boutique.

Pete's wife wakes up and wises up that nobody wants to live in Wichita, leaves him for a second time and he puts a gun in his mouth (that he concealed without a permit) at McDonald's.

Betty. Dies.

Sally becomes a war protester then gets hooked on drugs and catches AIDS. Basically Jenny form Forrest Gump, just copy her story to Sally.

The McCann guys are all bastards, holding onto their square of the checkerboard at all costs as accounts come and go, and Roger just adapts to what they do, continues to drink and hires junior talent for 15K a year, overworks them and takes credit (and the money) for everything they do. (this is the real world of New York advertising, right there)
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Hanging at a VFW telling stories about killing his CO with a lighter?

Wiener is going to do better. I'm expecting something worthwhile.
i think this was an important plot point---seems to me don/dick Whitman was always guilty about the death of his superior officer and his act in assuming his identity--the vfw forgave him for killing the officer, which could spur don to take a different outlook on life--be less guilty and stop beating himself up
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