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Old 04-21-2013, 08:05 AM   #1
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He "can" throw down field. He just chose not to do it, heh. I think he was 2nd in the league on throws 20 plus last year or something like that.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/pl...PerPassAttempt


Alex Smith was at 7.97 so he was definitely up there at the top. Ahead of Aaron Rodgers , Drew Brees and Tom Brady
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Old 04-21-2013, 08:09 AM   #2
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Alex Smith was at 7.97 so he was definitely up there at the top. Ahead of Aaron Rodgers , Drew Brees and Tom Brady
That, and the QB rating, are a couple of the most useless metrics in all of sports.
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Old 04-21-2013, 08:16 AM   #3
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That, and the QB rating, are a couple of the most useless metrics in all of sports.
Not when we're trying to justify giving up a 2nd for a QB. I'm definitely holding my breath . that's for sure.

Let's keep our fingers crossed that Alex has matured and become a franchise QB now. If he fails I won't be suprised. If he succeeds I'll be happy. Right now I just want to have hope. If we didn't have Smith and were relying on a draftee to fill the spot we would basically be pissing away Bowe and Charles careers.
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Old 04-21-2013, 08:17 AM   #4
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That, and the QB rating, are a couple of the most useless metrics in all of sports.
Anything that makes Alex look good is useless. We dont care about wins, QBR, completion % any of it. /CP
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Old 04-21-2013, 08:22 AM   #5
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Anything that makes Alex look good is useless. We dont care about wins, QBR, completion % any of it. /CP
I still don't like the deal, but PFF (who I take more stock in than any poster here for players on other teams) had Alex as a fringe Top 10 QB the last 2 years on a per game basis. On the other hand, even in Cassel's Pro Bowl season it was exposed as a fraud according to them. That made me feel even better seeing that. The guy is a pretty big upgrade at QB.
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Old 04-21-2013, 08:23 AM   #6
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Last time we heard that is was claimed to be propaganda by ***** to make Bowe look bad.

So whats the motive this time?
Don't know.
Don't care.

What I know, and what I care about, is that Baldwin's impressive practices have yet to transition to games.

Until I see that, it is all just bull shit.

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Anything that makes Alex look good is useless. We dont care about wins, QBR, completion % any of it. /CP
You might be new here.

See, I'm a guy that has always said that stats mean jack.

And those are even more useless stats than all the other useless stats.
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Old 04-21-2013, 08:48 AM   #7
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Anything that makes Alex look good is useless. We dont care about wins, QBR, completion % any of it. /CP
Handing the ball off to Frank Gore made him look good and I expect the same for him to hand the ball off to JC to make him look good.
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Old 04-21-2013, 09:02 AM   #8
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Anything that makes Alex look good is useless. We dont care about wins, QBR, completion % any of it. /CP
You realize he throws LESS deep balls than Matt Cassel right? Btw, Tim Tebow is still a winning QB so do you want him too? He also has the same number of playoff wins as Alex Smith.
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Old 04-21-2013, 09:48 AM   #9
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That, and the QB rating, are a couple of the most useless metrics in all of sports.
Especially if they don't say what you want them to say.
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Old 04-21-2013, 09:54 AM   #10
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Especially if they don't say what you want them to say.
Yeah.

Because Damon Huard having the second best QB rating in a season, while John Elway never having a rating above 85 before Mike Shannahan was hired tells us that QB rating is such an effective measure of QB performance.
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Old 04-21-2013, 11:18 AM   #11
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Especially if they don't say what you want them to say.
It doesn't matter. There exists no football stat that says Alex Smith is capable of leading the Chiefs to the Super Bowl.

End of story.
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Old 04-21-2013, 12:32 PM   #12
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That, and the QB rating, are a couple of the most useless metrics in all of sports.
YPA is not a useless metric.

No more than YPC is a useless metric for running backs.
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Old 04-21-2013, 12:36 PM   #13
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YPA is not a useless metric.

No more than YPC is a useless metric for running backs.
You are correct that it's not a useless metric, but it is a useless metric to determine if a QB is good at throwing deep. For Smith if you ask why he has a good YPC it is two reasons: 1) high completion precentage and 2) good YAC by his receivers. If you calculate his air yards per completion, they are among the lowest in the league. He's a dink and dunk QB. You can see that from watching 49ers games or by looking at the stats. It is what he is.
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Old 04-21-2013, 03:23 PM   #14
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YPA is not a useless metric.

No more than YPC is a useless metric for running backs.
Any and all stats are useless in and of themselves.

His YPA was better than Aaron Rodgers.

Would you argue that makes him better than Rodgers?
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