Owners of Toyota Cars in Rebellion Over Accidents Caused by Sudden acceleration.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by jjjayb

This is almost as bad as when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor!

Close, very close.

[Pushead2]

Originally Posted by HemiEd

Close, very close.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by JD10367

Let's see.

They're a Japanese company.

Their cars are suddenly going out of control, and killing people.... everywhere except in Japan.

IT'S ANOTHER SNEAK ATTACK!! NUKE THOSE LITTLE F**KERS!!!

yeah, and it is a Japanese designed part, that they had built by an American company. It all makes sense, they are still trying to win.

[JD10367]

Originally Posted by HemiEd

yeah, and it is a Japanese designed part, that they had built by an American company.

OMG!!11! So it's not only a sneak attack, it's a SLEEPER CELL version of it!!! Dammit!!

[ILWarpaint]

Yeah, that has to hurt. This can actually affect ALL car dealers (new and used).

Regardless of whether you are a Toyota dealer, if you have any of the recalled vehicles in your sale inventory, IADA urges you not to sell them until we are able to provide further guidance. The federal law does not specifically prohibit the sale of used vehicles subject to a recall as it does for new vehicles. However, sale of a vehicle with the knowledge that it was subject to a recall could expose you to significant liability. If the vehicle is involved in a collision, you could be sued for negligence for selling a vehicle that you knew, or should have known, was subject to recall.

[vailpass]

Got this e-mail from Budget today:

Yesterday Budget announced that it was removing all of the vehicles identified for recall by Toyota from its corporate fleet in the US, Canada, and Puerto Rico. This step was taken to protect the safety of our customers, which is always our top priority.

It is important to note that the safety problems that have led to Toyota’s recall of certain vehicles are believed to arise out of usage over time. Accordingly, we believe that all of the Toyota vehicles in our fleet are safe, given the regular maintenance and the low mileage of our overall fleet.

We also want to reassure you that the affected Toyotas represent only a small percentage of our overall fleet, so we expect to be able to fulfill all projected demand and you can continue to make reservations with complete confidence for any rental occasion. Our fleet strategy emphasizes diversity so that we are able to respond to the full range of vehicle rental needs of our customers, as well as to reduce our risk from any issues arising out of any individual manufacturer.

We further want to emphasize that only certain Toyota makes and models, in addition to the Pontiac Vibe, are affected by the recall. Those Toyota vehicles that are not affected will continue to be offered for rental; however, if you are uncomfortable driving a Toyota vehicle, we will make every effort to offer you an alternative vehicle if one is available.

Our commitment to customer safety is also behind our decision to offer what we believe is the youngest and lowest-mileage fleet in the vehicle rental industry. Whether you place as high a premium on safety as we do, or whether you just like driving new cars, either way Budget continues to be your best car rental choice.

Thank you for continuing to choose Budget for your vehicle rental needs.

Sincerely,


Thomas M. Gartland
Executive Vice President

[ILWarpaint]

"however, if you are uncomfortable driving a Toyota vehicle, we will make every effort to offer you an alternative vehicle if one is available."

:^)

[Bill Lundberg]

How not to return your Toyota:

http://www.2theadvocate.com/news/83184417.html

Man’s truck strikes BR Toyota dealership

• By KATIE KENNEDY
• Advocate staff writer
• Published: Jan 31, 2010

A man who attempted to return his recalled Toyota pickup truck to All Star Toyota on Airline Highway on Saturday crashed into the dealership building when his allegedly faulty accelerator stuck, the Baton Rouge Police Department reported.
The crash caused extensive damage to the truck involved, but no major injuries were reported, said Lt. Todd G. Lee Sr., chief of administrative services for the Police Department.
Mikel Valviva sought to return his truck to the dealership at 9150 Airline Highway, saying he no longer wanted it because of the recall on the accelerator, Lee said.
The dealership’s manager, Joe Costanza, offered to repair Valviva’s truck and loan him a car in the meantime, Lee said.
Matt McKay, owner of the All Star Automotive Group, said Costanza explained to Valviva on three separate occasions on Saturday that the dealership could not refund his money for the truck.
McKay said the process during the recall requires dealerships to provide a loaner car while the recalled vehicle is repaired.
Valviva refused the offers and tried to leave the dealership, but his gas pedal stuck, Lee said. The truck accelerated forward, striking the building, Lee said.
EMS personnel treated Valviva and his passenger for minor injuries on scene, Lee said.
McKay said a cosmetic column on the building received only minor damage.
Costanza confirmed Valviva’s truck is one of the models included in the recall, Lee said.
The investigating officer found no evidence the incident was intentional, Lee said.
“He didn’t have enough evidence to say that definitively,” Lee said.
McKay said he had “no comment” when asked if he believed the incident was accidental.
This is the first report of an accident caused by a faulty accelerator on a Toyota in the Greater Baton Rouge area, Lee said.
McKay said Valviva bought the truck in March 2009, and he had “no previous complaints or issues with the gas pedal.”
Attempts by The Advocate to reach Valviva on Saturday afternoon were unsuccessful.
Toyota Motor Co. said Tuesday it was suspending the sale of eight models and recalling more than 2 million cars because the gas pedals could become harder to press, slower to spring back or stuck.
Sean Kane, director of Safety Research and Strategies, a consumer group that conducts research into motor vehicle safety issues, said his firm has identified 2,274 incidents of sudden unintended acceleration in Toyota vehicles leading to at least 275 crashes and 18 deaths since 1999, the Associated Press reported.

[BigMeatballDave]

Toyota...Moving Forward...Quickly...whether you want to or not...

[HemiEd]

Lots of doubt about the latest line of BS handed out by Toyota.
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...,4401302.story


Toyota Motor Corp.'s decision to blame its widening sudden-acceleration problem on a gas pedal defect came under attack Friday, with the pedal manufacturer flatly denying that its products were at fault.

Federal vehicle safety records reviewed by The Times also cast doubt on Toyota's claims that sticky gas pedals were a significant factor in the growing reports of runaway vehicles. Of more than 2,000 motorist complaints of sudden acceleration in Toyota and Lexus vehicles over the last decade, just 5% blamed a sticking gas pedal, the analysis found.

What's more, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has conducted eight investigations into sudden-acceleration problems in Toyota vehicles over the last seven years, none of which identified a sticking pedal as a potential cause.

"The way the sudden-acceleration problems are occurring in reported incidents doesn't comport with how this sticky pedal is described," said Sean Kane, president of Safety Research & Strategies, a Rehoboth, Mass., auto safety consulting firm. "We know this recall is a red herring."

Sudden-acceleration events in Toyota and Lexus vehicles have been blamed for at least 19 fatalities and 815 vehicle crashes since 1999.

Toyota last fall blamed the episodes on floor mats that entrapped the gas pedals, leading to a massive recall. Then last week Toyota said sticking gas pedals were also causing sudden acceleration by not springing back into idle position, triggering another recall.

On Tuesday, the automaker stopped sales and production of eight models until it could remedy the problem.

Independent auto safety experts have been skeptical of Toyota's explanations, saying floor mats and sticky gas pedals can't fully explain the large number of complaints that have been mounting for the last decade, covering some of the most popular models in the company's lineup, including the Camry.

[Bugeater]

Well all we can do is wait and see if it happens to a car with the updated pedal. If it does, Toyota is really going to be up a shit creek.

[JD10367]

I hope we jump on this marketing opportunity! Come on, guys, let's get some market share back!

[BigRedChief]

Now over 100 drivers have complained to the government about the Prisus's brakes.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35214248/ns/business-autos/

Also did you see Steve wojo come out and say the problem could be in the software in Toyota's?

[Radar Chief]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Also did you see Steve wojo come out and say the problem could be in the software in Toyota's?

It probably is. If it were a hardware issue the problem would be repeatable and easily troubleshot down to a root cause. Because they haven’t been able to isolate a solid root cause and are throwing band-aids at it, like replacing the floor mats, throttle and activating the brake override, it looks to me like they don’t truly know what the root cause is. As a technician that’s just screaming buggy code to me.

[BigRedChief]

http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2010-02-03-electromagnetic03_ST_N.htm

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration is investigating whether electromagnetic signals such as those from radar and cellphones could be interfering with electronic gas-pedal controls in vehicles including Toyotas, according to a federal official with direct knowledge of the inquiry