If REid doesn't get a QB with our 1st round pick...

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

Your right we should take a TE to replace our FHOF Tony Gonzalez.

I was thinking trade down so we can take a TE AND Guard

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

How about having a Trent Green without all those peski INTs? That is what Geno Smith can bring to the table. He can put up TDs in bunches during a game and he doesn't throw a bunch of INTs. He had something like 44 TDs and only 6 INTs this year.

Why wouldn't we want a QB who gives us the best chance of winning by scoring a lot of TOUCHDOWNS?

His stats mean next to nothing. Seth Doege has virtually the same stats. (INTs being the difference - which is truthfully a big difference, but you get the point).

The argument for Geno is the eyeball test. You watch the kid play, and he just has patience, vision, touch, accuracy. I LOVE how he never tucks the ball and runs unless it is absolutely the last option for positive yards.

He actually reminds me more of Roethlesberger in that regard - extending plays and extending plays and then finding an open receiver. Beautiful.

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

His stats mean next to nothing. Seth Doege has virtually the same stats. (INTs being the difference - which is truthfully a big difference, but you get the point).

The argument for Geno is the eyeball test. You watch the kid play, and he just has patience, vision, touch, accuracy. I LOVE how he never tucks the ball and runs unless it is absolutely the last option for positive yards.

He actually reminds me more of Roethlesberger in that regard - extending plays and extending plays and then finding an open receiver. Beautiful.

Yes. I have actually made that comparisment before on here. I brought up the difference between Trent Green was about the INTs & lack there of that Geno Smith has.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

His stats mean next to nothing. Seth Doege has virtually the same stats. (INTs being the difference - which is truthfully a big difference, but you get the point).

The argument for Geno is the eyeball test. You watch the kid play, and he just has patience, vision, touch, accuracy. I LOVE how he never tucks the ball and runs unless it is absolutely the last option for positive yards.

He actually reminds me more of Roethlesberger in that regard - extending plays and extending plays and then finding an open receiver. Beautiful.

I don't want Smith to be compared to Big Ben, nor do I want him to ever try to play like Big Ben.

I see where you're coming from in terms of skill set. But Geno has to has to has to learn to become a pocket passer that only extends plays as a last resort. He can't try to be Big Ben.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I don't want Smith to be compared to Big Ben, nor do I want him to ever try to play like Big Ben.

I see where you're coming from in terms of skill set. But Geno has to has to has to learn to become a pocket passer that only extends plays as a last resort. He can't try to be Big Ben.

There is no comparison between Geno and Roethlisberger.

Ben is big, strong, ox of a QB that stands in the pocket and shrugs off would be sacks to extend plays.

Geno is a pocket glider that breaks containment when necessary, and extends plays outside the pocket to make plays in the passing game.

[crossbow]

Didn't we learn anything from last years draft? Washington traded its soul to the devil to move up. Miami traded up to take a chance on a QB that everyone said should go in the 2nd round. If a guy looks pretty good and a team needs a QB they are gonna move up to get him. If we wait until the 2nd round the good ones will be gone. So do we trade away our pick and end up missing what we need the most (QB) so we can have lots of picks and take a loser in the 2nd? Figure out which QB you want and take him. If he sucks then take another one when his rookie contract is up.

[crossbow]

If you guys say Geno is beyond a doubt the choice then I am sold.

Maybe they decide Quinn was being held back by stupid play calling or receivers not running routes correctly. They may go with Quinn and draft a development QB in the 3rd. Dunno. I just know that this decision has to be right or we are screwed. Which means it was epically important that Scot Peephole didn't make that decision.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by crossbow

If you guys say Geno is beyond a doubt the choice then I am sold.

Maybe they decide Quinn was being held back by stupid play calling or receivers not running routes correctly. They may go with Quinn and draft a development QB in the 3rd. Dunno. I just know that this decision has to be right or we are screwed. Which means it was epically important that Scot Peephole didn't make that decision.

There's no way Quinn makes this roster.

I bet if anyone, they're going to sign Trent Edwards as a backup. Reid has almost always had a veteran backup on his roster.

[MeatRock]

Trent Edwards? He's ****ing terrible.

[Cmd'r&Chief]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

There's no way Quinn makes this roster.

I bet if anyone, they're going to sign Trent Edwards as a backup. Reid has almost always had a veteran backup on his roster.

How the hell is Trent Edwards a veteran? Doesn't one need experience to be considered a veteran?

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Cmd'r&Chief

How the hell is Trent Edwards a veteran? Doesn't one need experience to be considered a veteran?

He's been in the league for 6 years and started 38 games. How is this even a question? He has about as much experience as you'd expect from a career backup.

[Mr. Laz]

I look forward to the SoC movement, calling for the firing on Reid/Dorsey on the day after the draft, if they don't draft a QB.

[Cmd'r&Chief]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

He's been in the league for 6 years and started 38 games. How is this even a question? He has about as much experience as you'd expect from a career backup.

So he's started only 1/3 of his games and he's a useful veteran in your eyes?

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Cmd'r&Chief

So he's started only 1/3 of his games and he's a useful veteran in your eyes?

Who are you trying to pick up as your backup, Peyton Manning? How many backups are in the league that have started 100% of their games?

He's a useful veteran in my eyes because he knows Reid's system and they have good QB evaluators who believed he deserved a roster spot in 2012. My guess is, that under the coaching of Pederson and Reid, he's a much better QB than he was in Buffalo.

We're not talking about a QB who can start. We're talking about a veteran who can win a few games if your starter gets hurt.

[Cmd'r&Chief]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Who are you trying to pick up as your backup, Peyton Manning? How many backups are in the league that have started 100% of their games?

He's a useful veteran in my eyes because he knows Reid's system and they have good QB evaluators who believed he deserved a roster spot in 2012. My guess is, that under the coaching of Pederson and Reid, he's a much better QB than he was in Buffalo.

We're not talking about a QB who can start. We're talking about a veteran who can win a few games if your starter gets hurt.

You know what, if Reid goes that route, I will support it fully.