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Old 11-12-2013, 01:53 PM   #1
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It's all about ownership and the direction.

Bowlen bought the team and changed the mindset. This last victory was his 300th victory and I believe that is the 2nd fastest for an owner to #300, right behind Al Davis.
Bowlen bought the team in 1984 when Elway had just arrived. He didn't change jack squat, all he did was ride the Horse-Face to success. His "mindset" is ineffective without a HOF quarterback at the helm.
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Old 11-12-2013, 01:57 PM   #2
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Bowlen bought the team in 1984 when Elway had just arrived. He didn't change jack squat, all he did was ride the Horse-Face to success. His "mindset" is ineffective without a HOF quarterback at the helm.
Ah ok. Since 1984, I think Denver has only had 5 losing seasons and 7 exactly at .500. I think that's 30 seasons in total... not bad, and they had success post Elway, just no titles.
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Old 11-12-2013, 02:05 PM   #3
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Ah ok. Since 1984, I think Denver has only had 5 losing seasons and 7 exactly at .500. I think that's 30 seasons in total... not bad, and they had success post Elway, just no titles.
What do you define as "success"? Since Horse-Face left they've played 14 seasons. They made the playoffs 6 times going 2-6 being outscored a woeful 155-264.
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Old 11-12-2013, 02:06 PM   #4
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What do you define as "success"? Since Horse-Face left they've played 14 seasons. They made the playoffs 6 times going 2-6.
We probably shouldn't go there.
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Old 11-12-2013, 02:48 PM   #5
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What do you define as "success"? Since Horse-Face left they've played 14 seasons. They made the playoffs 6 times going 2-6 being outscored a woeful 155-264.
If you're just counting SBs, then sure - they're not there without Elway.

If you're counting regular seasons where they didn't suck and advanced, whether they won in the playoffs are not, they've been pretty good.

A small # of teams have had sustained success over several eras.
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