Is the D-Line the Problem?

Archie Bunker · 04-03-2005, 07:04 PM

I was reading a Sporting News mock draft it has the Chiefs taking Erasmus James and said "The Chiefs' line is the weakest of several weak links on defense."

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/3502652

I have been of the mindset that the D-Line was the strength and the LBs and secondary was the main problem

So am I wrong or are they? Is the line so weak that the LBs have to blitz and play out of position therefore leaving the secondary vulnerable to the pass?

Demonpenz · 04-03-2005, 07:07 PM

it's not so much the d-line so much as it's the D

milkman · 04-03-2005, 07:08 PM

No.
The D-Line is the least weak link of several weak links on D.
It's the only group on this D that can be called servicable.

LBing and secondary can't even aspire to that claim.

sparkky · 04-03-2005, 07:38 PM

I do personally think that getting pressure on the qb with a 4 man line is the way to combat the new enforcement of the contact rule. No db can stay with a wr 3-4 seconds consistently.
The qb must be forced to pick a target and release the ball before the wr can expand on the separation achieved during route running. If a blitz is needed to accomplish this every snap that leaves holes a savy qb can and will exploit with regularity.
That being said, calling our D line "the weakest link" compared to our lbs or dbs is the pot calling the kettle black.

**the Talking Can** · 04-03-2005, 07:39 PM

shit is still poop....get my drift?

Archie Bunker · 04-03-2005, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

shit is still poop....get my drift?

The d-line is the most polished turd then.

**the Talking Can** · 04-03-2005, 07:45 PM

I honestly think our DL is still a major concern. If we start Hicks and Sims then we're screwed no matter what CP does.

UNLESS...Sims becomes a man (not going to happen) and Siavvi blossoms (doubtful) we're going to get pushed around like always.

milkman · 04-03-2005, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

shit is still poop....get my drift?

True, but the D-Line is a solid turd, while the rest of that D is the shits.

Mr. Christopher · 04-03-2005, 07:49 PM

Yes, our D-Line is a problem. No, it is not a strength. Is our D-Line as much of a problem as the rest of our defense? No.

Our D-Line is serviceable, in my opinion, but I think that we would greatly benefit from the addtion of a left bookend opposite Allen. I like Hicks, but he really has lost something over the last few years. Unless Hicks can get back to playing like he did a few years ago, I would rate obtaining a decent DE right up there with CB and LB as top priorities for the draft.

Chiefs Pantalones · 04-03-2005, 07:56 PM

I think the Dline should definately not be ignored. I think it is a weak point, yes, like are whole defense is. The Chiefs aren't willing to address all the needs in one offseason, but I think they can, but they won't. They think they can patch up some things here and there. I think it's going to take another offseason besides this one to really fix the defense. I see us at season's end being ranked 20th at best, with once again no Super Bowl victory, let alone an appearance in the big game.

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04-03-2005, 07:07 PM	#2
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04-03-2005, 07:08 PM	#3
milkman Dumbass! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Leading the Marty bashing Casino cash: $10029395	No. The D-Line is the least weak link of several weak links on D. It's the only group on this D that can be called servicable. LBing and secondary can't even aspire to that claim. __________________
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04-03-2005, 07:38 PM	#4
sparkky Veteran Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Arkansas Casino cash: $10004900	I do personally think that getting pressure on the qb with a 4 man line is the way to combat the new enforcement of the contact rule. No db can stay with a wr 3-4 seconds consistently. The qb must be forced to pick a target and release the ball before the wr can expand on the separation achieved during route running. If a blitz is needed to accomplish this every snap that leaves holes a savy qb can and will exploit with regularity. That being said, calling our D line "the weakest link" compared to our lbs or dbs is the pot calling the kettle black.
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04-03-2005, 07:45 PM	#7
the Talking Can Supporter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: street Casino cash: $10022208	I honestly think our DL is still a major concern. If we start Hicks and Sims then we're screwed no matter what CP does. UNLESS...Sims becomes a man (not going to happen) and Siavvi blossoms (doubtful) we're going to get pushed around like always. __________________ Clark Hunt: "Thank god for the Dominican pool boy"
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04-03-2005, 07:49 PM	#9
Mr. Christopher Starter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Indianapolis, IN Casino cash: $10014105	Yes, our D-Line is a problem. No, it is not a strength. Is our D-Line as much of a problem as the rest of our defense? No. Our D-Line is serviceable, in my opinion, but I think that we would greatly benefit from the addtion of a left bookend opposite Allen. I like Hicks, but he really has lost something over the last few years. Unless Hicks can get back to playing like he did a few years ago, I would rate obtaining a decent DE right up there with CB and LB as top priorities for the draft.
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04-03-2005, 07:56 PM	#10
Chiefs Pantalones GO CHIEFS!!!!!! Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $7918717	I think the Dline should definately not be ignored. I think it is a weak point, yes, like are whole defense is. The Chiefs aren't willing to address all the needs in one offseason, but I think they can, but they won't. They think they can patch up some things here and there. I think it's going to take another offseason besides this one to really fix the defense. I see us at season's end being ranked 20th at best, with once again no Super Bowl victory, let alone an appearance in the big game. __________________ Don't be fooled by my username, I'm white.
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