Warren Sapp on Dorsey and LJ (NFL.com chat)

[DTLB58]

http://chat.nfl.com/front/archived_chat/252

Kevin , Springfield MO 04:48 PM ET
Hey Warren, Was it hard for you to transition from a four man front in Tampa to a 3 man front in Oakland? Do you think Glenn Dorsey can do it in K.C.?

Warren Sapp, NFL Network
Glenn Dorsey's in trouble and so is Kansas City for trying to force him. Thank God I only had to do it for 16 games. It's not hard, it just takes away all the advantages you possess. Being fast, quick, agile in the 4-3. The 3-4 doesn't allow your talents to come out.

Joey, Kansas City, MO 05:30 PM ET
Your Opinion on Larry Johnson and how he will do this year and why??

Warren Sapp, NFL Network
I think if Larry Johnson takes in some good quality offseason work, I think he can get 1,700-1,800 yards and double-digit touchdowns. He's a nightmare to tackle.

I never really cared for much for Sapp while he was playing.

Some of the stuff he has said on NFLN since he has retired I agreed with, some of it I thought was way off base.

Not sure here if his comment about Dorsey is him thinking they are playing him at DT or DE???

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

I can show you a couple 3-4 teams that have DLmen who penetrate quite a bit.

Ok Jay Ratliff gets in the backfield as a NT in a 3-4...Seymour gets some sacks and then it's like uhh.

[Mecca]

And honestly how many of Seymour's sacks come when NE goes to 4 down?

If you have your front 3 try to penetrate when you're in the actual 3-4 look your linebackers are going to get demolished.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Mecca

And honestly how many of Seymour's sacks come when NE goes to 4 down?

If you have your front 3 try to penetrate when you're in the actual 3-4 look your linebackers are going to get demolished.

Esto.

Welcome back, BTW.

[boogblaster]

Dorsey will have to bulk up to play NT .. LJ has to have blockin' to make big yardage ...

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Seymour has two 8 sack seasons.

The Patriots also play a lot of 4-3.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Are you being sarcastic with me like I think you are...if so point to me the team that uses it's 3-4 lineman to create pressure and not eat up the blockers.

Dallas plays a 1-gap 3-4.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by THISmaqe

Dallas plays a 1-gap 3-4.

And the only one that gets in the backfield with any regularity is Ratliff, no one sees guys like Spears or Canty getting sacks. DeMarcus Ware was the one racking up the numbers.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Mecca

And the only one that gets in the backfield with any regularity is Ratliff, no one sees guys like Spears or Canty getting sacks. DeMarcus Ware was the one racking up the numbers.

They don't get in the backfield because they're not that great at it.

They have a 1-gap assignment, which means it's NOT their job to tie up blockers. You said to show you a team that doesn't use it's 3-4 linemen to tie up blockers and I just did.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

The Patriots also play a lot of 4-3.

No, they don't. They are generally a 3-4 team on obvious running downs and they'll use a lot of nickel on other downs. They do use the 4-3, but it's not as if it's a mainstay. The team is a base 3-4, 2 gap, team. On passing downs, Seymour gets after the QB, that's all.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

No, they don't.

Yes they do. Our new coach says that Denver will be switching using a lot of the 3-4 and the 4-3 because New England had a lot of success with it.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

Yes they do. Our new coach says that Denver will be switching using a lot of the 3-4 and the 4-3 because New England had a lot of success with it.

Your new coach has Denver switching to a 3-4. He's going to use the 4-3 because your defensive front sucks and he'll need to cover for its problems if it can't stop the run with the guys being conscripted to play the NT. New England is multiple with its defensive fronts, but it's just as likely to go with the "big nickel" as it is to go 4-3. Hell, there are times when they've gone with just 1 or 2 D-linemen, for that matter.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Didn't New England run the 4-3 exclusively Beli-cheat's first 3 or 4 years in NE?

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

Didn't New England run the 4-3 exclusively Beli-cheat's first 3 or 4 years in NE?

New England actually tried running the 3-4 early on, but the team didn't have a NT that could get the job done. They had to wait for Ted Washington to become available. If you want to see Patriots fans wince, ask them about the Steve Martin experiment. In the 3-4, you really need to have a quality NT, or you're probably going to get run on all day long. It's why both the Broncos and Chiefs could still look terrible even if most of their moves on the defenses pan out.

[xbarretx]

just because Sapp wasnt good at it doesnt mean gleen wont as well. all the Dorsey haters better give the man credit when hes proves you guys wrong

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Why does the GM get to pick the scheme? Shouldn't that be the Head Coach's call?

"You get me the talent, I make it all happen"?