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'Hamas' Jenkins · 05-15-2013, 02:43 PM

I was just offered a 1-1 deal:

I trade Evan Longoria; I get Ryan Braun.

Twelve team league. We use a 7x7 format. Hitting categories are R, HR, RBI, SB, TB, AVG, and OBP

Here's the skinny for my roster

C: Carlos Santana
1B: Pujols
2B: Kendrick
SS: Castro
3B: Longoria
OF: Trout
OF: Holliday
OF: Lorenzo Cain
UTIL: Mark Reynolds

Bench hitters are:

OF Willingham
OF: Brett Gardner
2B: Rickie Weeks

I also have Profar stored away.

Would you make this deal? I can move Reynolds to third and plug Braun in as the 3rd OF, riding the hot hand of Willingham or Cain, or hoping for steals from Gardner.

The advanced metrics suggest that Longoria's BA is unsustainable, but he should be able to keep his power binge up, as his HR/FB percentage isn't aberrational. He's hitting the same % of LD, but he's hitting far more FBs than GBs than at any point in his career.

Braun's current BABIP is also unsustainable, but his SB #s are way down.

The other issue is health. Longoria rarely stays healthy for 162, and Braun has been a horse.

Longoria's position is far more valuable, and although Reynolds has been a top 20 player so far, there's no way he can sustain this clip, and I don't want four months of .200 BA and 150 Ks from a 3B.

Common sense says just pull the trigger given Braun's past, but if he's not stealing bases, he's putting up similar numbers to Longoria at a position of far less value.

What would you do?

ChiefAshhole20 · 05-15-2013, 02:53 PM

Do it. Longoria won't stay healthy and Gardner could pick up the slack in the SB's at UTIL. Plus the dropoff from Braun to Lorenzo Cain is much steeper than Longoria to Reynolds to me personally.

duncan_idaho · 05-15-2013, 03:01 PM

I would do it.

Braun is just more of a known quantity. I love Longo but don't buy his health and having this type of success all season.

Is Reynolds eligible at 1B in your league?

duncan_idaho · 05-15-2013, 03:12 PM

Humble brag/advice for me, while we're at it:

I'm in that deep auction/keeper league ($300 cap/24 salaried players, 10 non-salaried from a snake draft).

My team is cruising in all hitting stats save SBs (which are slowly ticking up... just had a strange start to the season but should finish middle of the pack). I have more keepers that I know what to do with (we're only allowed 9).

I am probably going to trade a spare hitter for one more SP. I have Brandon Beachy stashed and coming back soon, but I'm not sure he'll give me the boost I need by myself. I've been getting by with Herrera and Drew Smyly at two of 9 P spots (High K relievers, at least).

Anyway, here are my core keepers and their value for next year:

Trout - 12
Harper - 9
Machado - 11 (:evil grin

Cano - 40
Kemp - 28
Sale - 8
Miller - 8

That leaves me with two keeper spots open. I need to choose from the following list:

Allen Craig - 8
Chase Headley - 5
Oscar Taveras - 5
Jedd Gyorko - 5
Ian Kinsler - 40
Jed Lowrie - 4 (we start 15 hitters with a lot of depth at MI, so 2B/SS eligibility he'll have for next year make him very valuable - Erick Aybar was kept in this league)

Who should I keep as part of my core? Who should I leverage for trade bait?

Marco Polo · 05-15-2013, 03:18 PM

I'd definitely keep Taveras. Craig is is an average WAR 1B but comes at a great price. Kinsler will probably move to 1B with Profar eventually being promoted. Gyorko has top 10 2B potential but I'd wait to see how he progresses this season first.

Ceej · 05-15-2013, 03:20 PM

I'm going to have to consult Prison bitch first.

BlackHelicopters · 05-15-2013, 03:28 PM

Hold out for Francoeur.

**BigRedChief** · 05-15-2013, 03:36 PM

I wouldn't trade with Duncan Idaho. The dude is a stud in fantasy baseball. He was scouting out players in the Cardinals thread even though he is a Royals fan to get a leg up on the competition.

Worked out well too.

Maybe have a Hamas vs. Duncan Idaho fantasy baseball cage match?

**BigRedChief** · 05-15-2013, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marco Polo

I'd definitely keep Taveras.

Taveras will hit. He's got an All-Star floor and all the way up to the HOF ceiling. His swing is a natural. No way do you let him go in a keeper league.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 05-15-2013, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

I would do it.

Braun is just more of a known quantity. I love Longo but don't buy his health and having this type of success all season.

Is Reynolds eligible at 1B in your league?

Reynolds is 1B/3B eligible.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 05-15-2013, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I wouldn't trade with Duncan Idaho. The dude is a stud in fantasy baseball. He was scouting out players in the Cardinals thread even though he is a Royals fan to get a leg up on the competition.

Worked out well too.

Maybe have a Hamas vs. Duncan Idaho fantasy baseball cage match?

I would get eviscerated. I have a knack for picking 20th round studs and 1st round busts every year.

My first rounders by year:

2007: Manny Ramirez
2008: Matt Holliday
2009: Hanley Ramirez
2010: Joe Mauer
2011: Hanley Ramirez
2012: Troy Tulowitzki

Every player but Ramirez in '09 severely underperformed from the previous year, and all were in their age 25-28 seasons, save Ramirez.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 05-15-2013, 04:31 PM

I did it. Braun's consistency is just too good to pass up. It turns 3B from a decided strength to a potential weakness, but makes my outfield elite.

East Side Rogelio · 05-17-2013, 03:37 PM

Some advice please

I'm being offered -

David Wright

for

Clay Buchholz

First time doing fantasy baseball as I'm not a big baseball guy. Is it harded to find a pitcher a notch below Buchholz as opposed to hoping to find a good 3b? 3b is my weakest position.

Oh, I have Kershaw, Darvish, Cj wilson, Papelbon and Shelby Miller as pitchers.

thanks guise

Jewish Rabbi · 05-17-2013, 04:03 PM

I'd do that. Buccholz will come crashing down soon, IMO.

duncan_idaho · 05-17-2013, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by East Side Rogelio

Some advice please

I'm being offered -

David Wright

for

Clay Buchholz

First time doing fantasy baseball as I'm not a big baseball guy. Is it harded to find a pitcher a notch below Buchholz as opposed to hoping to find a good 3b? 3b is my weakest position.

Oh, I have Kershaw, Darvish, Cj wilson, Papelbon and Shelby Miller as pitchers.

thanks guise

Do it.

How many teams in your league?

05-15-2013, 02:43 PM
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $8009572	Fantasy Baseball Trade Help I was just offered a 1-1 deal: I trade Evan Longoria; I get Ryan Braun. Twelve team league. We use a 7x7 format. Hitting categories are R, HR, RBI, SB, TB, AVG, and OBP Here's the skinny for my roster C: Carlos Santana 1B: Pujols 2B: Kendrick SS: Castro 3B: Longoria OF: Trout OF: Holliday OF: Lorenzo Cain UTIL: Mark Reynolds Bench hitters are: OF Willingham OF: Brett Gardner 2B: Rickie Weeks I also have Profar stored away. Would you make this deal? I can move Reynolds to third and plug Braun in as the 3rd OF, riding the hot hand of Willingham or Cain, or hoping for steals from Gardner. The advanced metrics suggest that Longoria's BA is unsustainable, but he should be able to keep his power binge up, as his HR/FB percentage isn't aberrational. He's hitting the same % of LD, but he's hitting far more FBs than GBs than at any point in his career. Braun's current BABIP is also unsustainable, but his SB #s are way down. The other issue is health. Longoria rarely stays healthy for 162, and Braun has been a horse. Longoria's position is far more valuable, and although Reynolds has been a top 20 player so far, there's no way he can sustain this clip, and I don't want four months of .200 BA and 150 Ks from a 3B. Common sense says just pull the trigger given Braun's past, but if he's not stealing bases, he's putting up similar numbers to Longoria at a position of far less value. What would you do?
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05-15-2013, 02:53 PM	#2
ChiefAshhole20 Starter Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Houston, TX Casino cash: $10005862	Do it. Longoria won't stay healthy and Gardner could pick up the slack in the SB's at UTIL. Plus the dropoff from Braun to Lorenzo Cain is much steeper than Longoria to Reynolds to me personally.
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05-15-2013, 03:01 PM	#3
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1730308	I would do it. Braun is just more of a known quantity. I love Longo but don't buy his health and having this type of success all season. Is Reynolds eligible at 1B in your league? __________________ "You gotta love livin', cause dying is a pain in the ass." ---- Sinatra
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05-15-2013, 03:12 PM	#4
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1730308	Humble brag/advice for me, while we're at it: I'm in that deep auction/keeper league ($300 cap/24 salaried players, 10 non-salaried from a snake draft). My team is cruising in all hitting stats save SBs (which are slowly ticking up... just had a strange start to the season but should finish middle of the pack). I have more keepers that I know what to do with (we're only allowed 9). I am probably going to trade a spare hitter for one more SP. I have Brandon Beachy stashed and coming back soon, but I'm not sure he'll give me the boost I need by myself. I've been getting by with Herrera and Drew Smyly at two of 9 P spots (High K relievers, at least). Anyway, here are my core keepers and their value for next year: Trout - 12 Harper - 9 Machado - 11 (:evil grin Cano - 40 Kemp - 28 Sale - 8 Miller - 8 That leaves me with two keeper spots open. I need to choose from the following list: Allen Craig - 8 Chase Headley - 5 Oscar Taveras - 5 Jedd Gyorko - 5 Ian Kinsler - 40 Jed Lowrie - 4 (we start 15 hitters with a lot of depth at MI, so 2B/SS eligibility he'll have for next year make him very valuable - Erick Aybar was kept in this league) Who should I keep as part of my core? Who should I leverage for trade bait? __________________ "You gotta love livin', cause dying is a pain in the ass." ---- Sinatra
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05-15-2013, 03:18 PM	#5
Marco Polo Veteran Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 41°59.4′N 87°39.6'W Casino cash: $5788908	I'd definitely keep Taveras. Craig is is an average WAR 1B but comes at a great price. Kinsler will probably move to 1B with Profar eventually being promoted. Gyorko has top 10 2B potential but I'd wait to see how he progresses this season first.
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05-15-2013, 03:20 PM	#6
Ceej BOOM!1! Join Date: Aug 2004 Casino cash: $9475541	I'm going to have to consult Prison bitch first.
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05-15-2013, 03:28 PM	#7
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05-15-2013, 03:36 PM	#8
BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $3119627 VARSITY	I wouldn't trade with Duncan Idaho. The dude is a stud in fantasy baseball. He was scouting out players in the Cardinals thread even though he is a Royals fan to get a leg up on the competition. Worked out well too. Maybe have a Hamas vs. Duncan Idaho fantasy baseball cage match? __________________ Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering. -YODA
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05-15-2013, 04:31 PM	#12
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $8009572	I did it. Braun's consistency is just too good to pass up. It turns 3B from a decided strength to a potential weakness, but makes my outfield elite. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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05-17-2013, 03:37 PM	#13
East Side Rogelio Starter Join Date: Mar 2013 Casino cash: $9854523	Some advice please I'm being offered - David Wright for Clay Buchholz First time doing fantasy baseball as I'm not a big baseball guy. Is it harded to find a pitcher a notch below Buchholz as opposed to hoping to find a good 3b? 3b is my weakest position. Oh, I have Kershaw, Darvish, Cj wilson, Papelbon and Shelby Miller as pitchers. thanks guise
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05-17-2013, 04:03 PM	#14
Jewish Rabbi What's up braj? Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Placencia, Belize Casino cash: $2098320	I'd do that. Buccholz will come crashing down soon, IMO.
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