Life Anyone here doing the E-Cig / Vape thing? - Page 87

**pr_capone** · 11-17-2013, 03:05 AM

Thanks to my vape, I've had only one single cigarette in the past 3 weeks. I have zero cravings for them and I feel considerably better. In fact, I still have about 5 smokes left in a pack and just can't see myself smoking those... don't want to.

Even better... 5ml of juice, which costs $5, lasts me about 2 weeks meaning that I am spending less in the long run. I only smoked, at most, a pack a week... but still.

I tried the Blu E-Cigs but they were terrible. Trying to "smoke" out of one of those was like trying to take a hit off a joint that was rolled WAY to tight.

I'm using an eGo-V v2 mega battery with variable voltage control with a gravity tank.

**mdchiefsfan** · 04-15-2016, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil

Yeah. A lot of the sales guys in brick-and-mortar shops are trendy douchebags. More like car salesmen. "Oh you just have to have this latest thing! It goes to 11!" No I don't, ****bag, I know what I want and it needs to work properly. Now kindly **** off as I go back home and shop online.

Oh, as I mentioned he had not one clue what to say to reel my money back in after his bullshit. It was great. I've been in this for way to long for that kinda shit. The same guy, when my friend went to buy coils for his Nautilus (which the sell), asked my friend how to spell Nautilus upon his request.

Transcribed:

My friend: "Can I get a coil for a Nautilus?"

SELLER: "Can you spell that?"

Friend: "Um, N-A-U-T-I-L-U-S?"

Seller: "We don't sell single coils; only five packs."

Friend: "Fine."

I'm sorry, you lose any credibility when you cant spell your own products.

listopencil · 04-15-2016, 11:02 PM

Back when I used my Atlantis I was looking for another original Atlantis, because I was going to order a second extension tank set up, but I couldn't find any of the original Atlantis tanks online. So I walk into the shop and tell the guy what I was looking for. He grabs a Mini Nautilus with an extension already built in and swears up and down that it's what I want. Then when I refuse to buy it he drags out a SS Atlantis tank replacement (original size) and claims that this is the only alternative ever made because obviously I didn't know what I was talking about. I ripped into him and left. Stupid ****er.

listopencil · 04-15-2016, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan

Oh, as I mentioned he had not one clue what to say to reel my money back in after his bullshit. It was great. I've been in this for way to long for that kinda shit. The same guy, when my friend went to buy coils for his Nautilus (which the sell), asked my friend how to spell Nautilus upon his request.

Transcribed:

My friend: "Can I get a coil for a Nautilus?"

SELLER: "Can you spell that?"

Friend: "Um, N-A-U-T-I-L-U-S?"

Seller: "We don't sell single coils; only five packs."

Friend: "Fine."

I'm sorry, you lose any credibility when you cant spell your own products.

Hah. Sounds about right. You know these Tiger coils running around 70W-ish don't heat up much at all either. The 100W+ coils were beastly and hot.

**mdchiefsfan** · 04-15-2016, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil

Back when I used my Atlantis I was looking for another original Atlantis, because I was going to order a second extension tank set up, but I couldn't find any of the original Atlantis tanks online. So I walk into the shop and tell the guy what I was looking for. He grabs a Mini Nautilus with an extension already built in and swears up and down that it's what I want. Then when I refuse to buy it he drags out a SS Atlantis tank replacement (original size) and claims that this is the only alternative ever made because obviously I didn't know what I was talking about. I ripped into him and left. Stupid ****er.

Wow! Glad to see you've had to deal with it as well.

My fiance went into Vaper's Knoll (which is my go to, but they have hired some snobs recently) and asked for our usual bottle of juice. When I say usual bottle of juice, I mean we have used this for well over a year and a half at the same PG/VG ratio, we've only dropped the nic level.

My fiance got home and I filled up my tank and after a while i started to taste a bread type of flavor, which I can't stand. We decide to take it back, as they have a no hassle return policy. She takes it back, and the girl at the counter takes the bad bottle to the back and a manager comes out with the bottle in hand. He GLOBS a huge portion of the juice onto his finger, tastes it in front of my fiance, and says, "Tastes like super green to me." He promises to redo it once my fiance stands her ground, but she gets it home and I still taste it faintly. The bastard poured a bit out, filled it up with the correct formula, and handed it back out.

I got online and got a hold of their customer service rep, who took care of it, but it should've never gotten that far.

**Anyong Bluth** · 04-15-2016, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan

Wow! Glad to see you've had to deal with it as well.

My fiance went into Vaper's Knoll (which is my go to, but they have hired some snobs recently) and asked for our usual bottle of juice. When I say usual bottle of juice, I mean we have used this for well over a year and a half at the same PG/VG ratio, we've only dropped the nic level.

My fiance got home and I filled up my tank and after a while i started to taste a bread type of flavor, which I can't stand. We decide to take it back, as they have a no hassle return policy. She takes it back, and the girl at the counter takes the bad bottle to the back and a manager comes out with the bottle in hand. He GLOBS a huge portion of the juice onto his finger, tastes it in front of my fiance, and says, "Tastes like super green to me." He promises to redo it once my fiance stands her ground, but she gets it home and I still taste it faintly. The bastard poured a bit out, filled it up with the correct formula, and handed it back out.

I got online and got a hold of their customer service rep, who took care of it, but it should've never gotten that far.

That's some bullshit. It costs them pennies to replace vs losing a repeat loyal customer.

Some really stupid business sense.

listopencil · 04-15-2016, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan

Wow! Glad to see you've had to deal with it as well.

My fiance went into Vaper's Knoll (which is my go to, but they have hired some snobs recently) and asked for our usual bottle of juice. When I say usual bottle of juice, I mean we have used this for well over a year and a half at the same PG/VG ratio, we've only dropped the nic level.

My fiance got home and I filled up my tank and after a while i started to taste a bread type of flavor, which I can't stand. We decide to take it back, as they have a no hassle return policy. She takes it back, and the girl at the counter takes the bad bottle to the back and a manager comes out with the bottle in hand. He GLOBS a huge portion of the juice onto his finger, tastes it in front of my fiance, and says, "Tastes like super green to me." He promises to redo it once my fiance stands her ground, but she gets it home and I still taste it faintly. The bastard poured a bit out, filled it up with the correct formula, and handed it back out.

I got online and got a hold of their customer service rep, who took care of it, but it should've never gotten that far.

Pretty much all I do is buy high nic 100% PG juices with strong flavors online. Then I buy USP 99.5% anhydrous VG off the shelf. You can get it for maybe $4 at Wal Mart for a 177 Ml bottle. I keep an old 30 Ml bottle with a nice dropper lid that I mix it in.

**Anyong Bluth** · 04-15-2016, 11:21 PM

I like some of Knolls flavors. My absolute favorite overall has been Liberty Vapor- Golden Dragon especially!!!!!!!!!

Forbitten is also 5 stars.

**mdchiefsfan** · 04-15-2016, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil

Pretty much all I do is buy high nic 100% PG juices with strong flavors online. Then I buy USP 99.5% anhydrous VG off the shelf. You can get it for maybe $4 at Wal Mart for a 177 Ml bottle. I keep an old 30 Ml bottle with a nice dropper lid that I mix it in.

Trust me, if much more of this bullshit propaganda comes out and they start regulating it, I'll be right there with you. I'm just lazy.

listopencil · 04-15-2016, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth

That's some bullshit. It costs them pennies to replace vs losing a repeat loyal customer.

Some really stupid business sense.

It looks a lot like this when they pull that shit with me:

listopencil · 04-15-2016, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan

Trust me, if much more of this bullshit propaganda comes out and they start regulating it, I'll be right there with you. I'm just lazy.

It is really, really easy. Not like making your own from scratch - and nowhere near as complicated as building your own coils, not even close. It's even kind of fun. And you get to play around with your own combination of flavors.

*Upon Edit: And you save a shit ton of money.

**mdchiefsfan** · 04-15-2016, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth

That's some bullshit. It costs them pennies to replace vs losing a repeat loyal customer.

Some really stupid business sense.

The customer service rep went down to the store immediately and I received amazing service after the fact, but I gave the managers on site quite a bit of leniency to remedy the situation, as they should have. I hold no ill-will. I got my point across.

The thing that bothered me the most was the effort to take the bottle behind the closed door then come out in front of my fiance, taste it, and tell her she is full of shit, essentially.

Here was my email:

Department Customer Support
Message

Hi,

My girlfriend came into the store on Wednesday to pick up an order of juice. She ordered 100ml of Super Green. That is our everyday vape, and has been for almost a year. She came home and I filled up my tank. My tank, obviously, was filled with Super Green. The first few pulls were fine, but as my wicks became saturated with the new juice I could taste a bakery flavor.

My best friend, also a Vaper's Knoll customer, is an avid STP user, and all I can say is the breading flavor used in that, seemed to have appeared in our new bottle of Super Green. We are completely aware that accidents happen, so we decided to take it back, since we're not fond of that flavoring. It is also a quite powerful, unmistakeable flavor.

My girlfriend came back in the store to exchange the bottle yesterday. Upon mentioning the mix up the person she spoke with went into the back, and got what I assume is a manager. In front of my girlfriend, he globbed the juice on his finger, tasted it, and told her it tasted like Super Green to him. Why this occurred is beyond me, but the impression my girlfriend got from that interaction was this manager had the audacity to tell her she was wrong in her assumption that the flavoring was off. I really see no point in tasting the flavor in front of my girlfriend, other than to dispute our discrepancy. I've never had issues like this arise when flavors have been off before, and have been told that if it were to ever occur, to bring it in for an exchange, no problem.

It required my girlfriend to defend what her and I both tasted as being off, since as I mentioned, we have been vaping this, and just about only this for close to a year. Reluctantly, this gentleman took the bottle to the back and came back out with a "new" one. I quoted new because, while slightly less noticeable than it was before, that flavor is still slightly there. I cleaned my tank, changed my coil, and have filled it up twice hoping that flavor would run its course, but there it is still. The only assumption I can make is he dumped out some of the juice from the first bottle and refilled it with Super Green diluting that breading flavor.

This is unacceptable Customer Service in my opinion. I live in ***********, and having to hike there for a third time is extraordinarily inconvenient considering we gave your shop the chance to correct this issue. I am not certain how this is taking care of a long term customer, but I felt this needed to be addressed. I will be coming in the store today to get a new bottle, yet again. If the flavor profile of Super Green has been changed, please let me know so I can begin my hunt for a new everyday vape. Please correct this issue.

Thanks,

***********

Here is his response:

Zach Zeuch (The Vaper's Knoll)
Feb 12, 11:08 AM

Hi *************,

Thank you for taking the time to reach out to us about this issue. I am very sorry to hear that you received a bottle of juice from us that does not taste right. And I also apologize sincerely for the way the situation was handled when you brought the bottle back in to our retail location. At The Vaper's Knoll we completely stand by all of the juice that we make and customer satisfaction is always our top priority so there is no reason that you should have been given any issues or questioning when bringing your juice back for an exchange.

Please feel free to bring the bottle back at your earliest convenience and we will make you a fresh bottle on the spot. I can assure you that the recipe for Super Green has not been changed since it was released so if your new replacement bottle still tastes off after you receive it that may mean that our batch of Super Green concentrate was made incorrectly and will need to be assessed. At any rate, we will certainly work with you to get this issue resolved as quick and easy as possible.

I will also personally go over to our retail location and have a word with the staff. There are a fair amount of new managers and employees and I want to make sure they fully understand both our return/exchange policy, as well as how to help customers with any issues they have in a respectful manner.

Again, we are very sorry for any inconvenience that this has caused.

If you have any other questions or concerns please do not hesitate to let me know!

Zach Zeuch

**mdchiefsfan** · 04-15-2016, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil

It looks a lot like this when they pull that shit with me:

A Salt Weapon · 04-16-2016, 12:08 AM

My little update:
May 12th 2015 last cig
April 11th 2016 last vape

I did it. I worked my way down in nic and after a couple days on zero nic, I said why not I don't need this.
The physical addiction to vape is still there. I still reach for it occasionally, but it's just out of habit and there's no craving when I remember that I don't anymore.

Never thought I'd quit honestly, 17 years of smoking and it's over. Vaping was the best thing I've ever done.

**mdchiefsfan** · 04-16-2016, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by A Salt Weapon

My little update:
May 12th 2015 last cig
April 11th 2016 last vape

I did it. I worked my way down in nic and after a couple days on zero nic, I said why not I don't need this.
The physical addiction to vape is still there. I still reach for it occasionally, but it's just out of habit and there's no craving when I remember that I don't anymore.

Never thought I'd quit honestly, 17 years of smoking and it's over. Vaping was the best thing I've ever done.

Congrats, dude! Glad to hear it. I can't wait to type those words myself.

Beef Supreme · 04-16-2016, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by A Salt Weapon

My little update:
May 12th 2015 last cig
April 11th 2016 last vape

I did it. I worked my way down in nic and after a couple days on zero nic, I said why not I don't need this.
The physical addiction to vape is still there. I still reach for it occasionally, but it's just out of habit and there's no craving when I remember that I don't anymore.

Never thought I'd quit honestly, 17 years of smoking and it's over. Vaping was the best thing I've ever done.

Way to go man. I've been steadily dropping the nic level, but haven't got to zero quite yet.

11-17-2013, 03:05 AM
pr_capone ** SOC & ** YOU Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Chiefs Hell Casino cash: $10018214	Anyone here doing the E-Cig / Vape thing? Thanks to my vape, I've had only one single cigarette in the past 3 weeks. I have zero cravings for them and I feel considerably better. In fact, I still have about 5 smokes left in a pack and just can't see myself smoking those... don't want to. Even better... 5ml of juice, which costs $5, lasts me about 2 weeks meaning that I am spending less in the long run. I only smoked, at most, a pack a week... but still. I tried the Blu E-Cigs but they were terrible. Trying to "smoke" out of one of those was like trying to take a hit off a joint that was rolled WAY to tight. I'm using an eGo-V v2 mega battery with variable voltage control with a gravity tank.
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04-15-2016, 11:02 PM	#1292
listopencil Immanentize The Eschaton Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: In Partibus Infidelium Casino cash: $1995880	Back when I used my Atlantis I was looking for another original Atlantis, because I was going to order a second extension tank set up, but I couldn't find any of the original Atlantis tanks online. So I walk into the shop and tell the guy what I was looking for. He grabs a Mini Nautilus with an extension already built in and swears up and down that it's what I want. Then when I refuse to buy it he drags out a SS Atlantis tank replacement (original size) and claims that this is the only alternative ever made because obviously I didn't know what I was talking about. I ripped into him and left. Stupid ***er. __________________ Good friends we have had, oh, good friends we've lost...along the way. In this great future, you can't forget your past. So dry your tears, I say*.
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04-16-2016, 12:08 AM	#1303
A Salt Weapon Rookie Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Alaska Casino cash: $2643539	My little update: May 12th 2015 last cig April 11th 2016 last vape I did it. I worked my way down in nic and after a couple days on zero nic, I said why not I don't need this. The physical addiction to vape is still there. I still reach for it occasionally, but it's just out of habit and there's no craving when I remember that I don't anymore. Never thought I'd quit honestly, 17 years of smoking and it's over. Vaping was the best thing I've ever done. __________________ If two wrongs don't make a right, try three.
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