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Old 03-12-2024, 04:37 PM  
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Old 03-12-2024, 05:15 PM   #31
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Thats what kills me, thought for sure his contributions here had earned more respect than a lowball 1 year gig
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Old 03-12-2024, 05:17 PM   #32
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Old 03-12-2024, 05:17 PM   #33
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Old 03-12-2024, 05:17 PM   #34
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He was a great energy guy, but if the decision was Tranquil vs. Gay, I'm happy we stuck with Drew.

I really dont know. Next year Drue is gonna count at 8.5 million towards the cap.. (guaranteed base salary of almost 7 million)..


willie gay is 3 years younger


so we saved 2 million this year but next year we get hit with 8.5 million i think...




there are pros and cons... Tranquil was impressive this year. Glad i am not Veach.
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Old 03-12-2024, 05:18 PM   #35
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but bolton being better than gay is irrelevant


and gay is probably better than the others you mentioned (at OLB / will/ sam)


Tranquil is good and serviceable but he has been used as a backup I dont hink you can say he is "better" yet..IMO


Chenal is like bolton , bigger and more of a ILB


Gay was probably the fastest LB we had and probably the best OLB
Tranquill is way more dependable and versatile. That's why he got paid.
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Thats what kills me, thought for sure his contributions here had earned more respect than a lowball 1 year gig

its not "lowball" for 1 year. 5 million is top 20ish for a linebacker.



maybe no one would do a good multi year deal so he took 5 milly for a year and will ink a longer deal next year. hes still young...
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I really dont know. Next year Drue is gonna count at 8.5 million towards the cap.. (guaranteed base salary of almost 7 million)..


willie gay is 3 years younger


so we saved 2 million this year but next year we get hit with 8.5 million i think...




there are pros and cons... Tranquil was impressive this year. Glad i am not Veach.
Gay would have been structured similarly. Why do people look at Cap hits, it has nothing to with what the player is really making over the contract. It mapipulation by the Cap staff.
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Old 03-12-2024, 05:24 PM   #39
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The day Cam Jones balled out against the Chargers was the day Willie was not gonna return. They kept Jones on the roster all year for a reason. An intelligent LB who is a tackling machine but is also good in coverage. Just has to stay healthy now.

Good luck to Willie with the Saints
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I hadn't seen a linebacker on what seemed like every tackle since Ray Lewis was playing. I knew then that they'd bank on him replacing Willie.

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Gay would have been structured similarly. Why do people look at Cap hits, it has nothing to with what the player is really making over the contract. It mapipulation by the Cap staff.

yeah, i agree.


so they both "got paid" just differently..


although Gay is taking a big risk.....not sure i would be ok with that if i was his agent


but if he plays lights out in 2024, he could make it pay off
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its not "lowball" for 1 year. 5 million is top 20ish for a linebacker.



maybe no one would do a good multi year deal so he took 5 milly for a year and will ink a longer deal next year. hes still young...
5 was the max, so its clearly an incentive laden deal

Maybe he isn't the all around talent Tranquil is, but sizzle matters too and he's plenty young enough to continue rounding out his game... he should've gotten a better deal IMO
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I’m surprised Tranquill got a better contract than Willie. It feels a bit like Orlando Brown overplaying his hand and settling for way less money with another team.
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he should've gotten a better deal IMO

i guess what i am saying is maybe he wanted more per year


so he calculated and took the 5 for this year, thinking he will get a longer & better offer after another season.


Big risk but possible big reward?


Theres not a ton of LB getting more than 5 milly per season.(25 guys in the NFL?)..but if he gets his 5 this season and then inks something like tranquil did next year, then he will have done pretty well..



awfully risky but he would never have to work again if he pulls it off and isnt an idiot with his money
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I like Willie, but I totally get the sense that he’s a bit of a head case. Enjoy your rings and please stay out of trouble in the Big Easy. Also, Willie, the gay part of the French Quarter has no relation to your surname.
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