Life Texting in the theater in Florida? I don't think so... - Page 13

Al Bundy · 01-13-2014, 05:40 PM

http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/story/2...-movie-theater

WESLEY CHAPEL (FOX 13) -

A moviegoer lost his life inside a Pasco County theater Monday afternoon after a dispute over texting with a retired police officer.

According to the sheriff's office, the dispute happened before the 1:20 showing of 'Lone Survivor' had even gotten underway at the Cobb CineBistro at Grove 16 complex on Wesley Grove Blvd.

Investigators say two couples had gotten into an argument over noise.

"The victim was on his cell phone; he was texting. We believe he was making some kind of noise. This noise led to an altercation between the suspect and the victim," Sheriff Chris Nocco explained.

A witness recalled seeing the agitated man -- later identified by deputies as Curtis Reeves -- get up and leave in an apparent attempt to find a manager. When he came back alone, the argument escalated.

Charles Cummings told FOX 13 he heard the victim say he was texting his 3-year-old daughter before Reeves pulled out a pistol.

"Their voices start going up, there seems to be a confrontation, somebody throws popcorn, then bang, he was shot," said Cummings, who was there to celebrate his birthday. "I heard the victim say, 'I can't believe...,' then he fell on us."

"I asked if the guy was OK, and he started gurgling blood and then fell," recalled Cummings' son, who said he ran to call 911.

Both the man, identified by deputies as Chad Oulson, and his wife Nicole were struck by the single shot. Oulson, 43, was hit in the chest and died, while Nicole was hit in the hand when she put her hand up in front of her husband. She suffered non-life-threatening injuries.

An off-duty Sumter County deputy inside the theater was able to grab the gun and detain Reeves until deputies arrived, the sheriff added.

Reeves, a 71-year-old retired Tampa police officer, was arrested and charged with second-degree murder. A 2005 Tampa Bay Times article also described him as a former director of security for Busch Gardens.

Moments after he was named as the suspect, Tampa police issued a statement saying Reeves had retired back in 1993 as a captain.

"He was instrumental in establishing the department's first Tactical Response Team," the statement explained. "We are not aware of any contact with the department since his departure more than 20 years ago."

Nocco said his detectives considered if this could be a 'stand your ground' case but decided the criteria did not apply.

"It's absolutely crazy it would rise to this level over somebody just texting in a movie theater," he offered.

"I can't believe people would bring a gun to a movie," added Cummings, a Marine who served in Vietnam. "I can't believe they would argue and fight and shoot one another over popcorn or even a cell phone."

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NinerDoug · 01-14-2014, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief

I am a sheepdog and I suspect a vast majority of those who are able to carry a firearm legally (such as CCW holders are as well sheepdogs)

Seems to me this guy was both sheep dog and wolf.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad · 01-14-2014, 03:43 PM

At least the victim didn't throw a bag of skittles at him.

**BigRedChief** · 01-14-2014, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by kcfanXIII

I am assuming that most elderly folks have physical conditions that would make fisticuffs unfair at best, and possibly deadly in some worst cases.

This was no ordinary senior citizen. This was not some retired flat foot, walked a beat, small town cop.

He was the cop that started the first SWAT team in the early 80's in Tampa. He was considered the go to guy for all hostage situations, public unrests etc. for over 10 years. The best cop in the Tampa area.

He was head of Security at Bush Gardens amusement park after he retired from the police force.

**BigRichard** · 01-14-2014, 04:20 PM

I wonder if the reaction here would be the same if the headline read "Man shot at movie theatre for being a dick." I love how headlines can drive peoples emotions.

Just Passin' By · 01-14-2014, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRichard

I wonder if the reaction here would be the same if the headline read "Man shot at movie theatre for being a dick." I love how headlines can drive peoples emotions.

Death for texting during a movie preview seems extreme to me, regardless of the headline. Your mileage may vary.

**BigRichard** · 01-14-2014, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Death for texting during a movie preview seems extreme to me, regardless of the headline. Your mileage may vary.

As I said in a previous post, was it the texting that got him shot or did something happen after that?

And I am not condoning what the old fart did. I am just saying there was more than he was just texting.

jspchief · 01-14-2014, 04:56 PM

Obviously he had no choice but to shoot the guy. It's not like you can just walk out of a theater. And even if he could, why would he throw away $10 of his hard earned money when he can just kill someone instead.

Eleazar · 01-14-2014, 04:57 PM

I think this should be an acceptable penalty for texting repeatedly during a movie.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad · 01-14-2014, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRichard

As I said in a previous post, was it the texting that got him shot or did something happen after that?

And I am not condoning what the old fart did. I am just saying there was more than he was just texting.

one of the witnesses seems to give a good account. Verbal altercation followed by the victim tossing his popcorn at the old dipshit. Guess the old man didn't appreciate getting his disgusting, bald head all greasy.

**BigRichard** · 01-14-2014, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudy lost the toss

one of the witnesses seems to give a good account. Verbal altercation followed by the victim tossing his popcorn at the old dipshit. Guess the old man didn't appreciate getting his disgusting, bald head all greasy.

So your saying it wasn't for texting?

Rudy tossed tigger's salad · 01-14-2014, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRichard

So your saying it wasn't for texting?

Does the headline make a difference? "Man throws popcorn after altercation, shot in chest"....

**J Diddy** · 01-14-2014, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudy lost the toss

one of the witnesses seems to give a good account. Verbal altercation followed by the victim tossing his popcorn at the old dipshit. Guess the old man didn't appreciate getting his disgusting, bald head all greasy.

Dude took it all wrong. That shit was $20 worth of popcorn. It was a peace offering and not intended to offend.

**gblowfish** · 01-14-2014, 05:27 PM

The shooter will probably get off as self defense. He thought the guy's smart phone was a stun gun...

**BigRichard** · 01-14-2014, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudy lost the toss

Does the headline make a difference? "Man throws popcorn after altercation, shot in chest"....

Yes it does. Several people on here have stated he was shot for just texting which is laughable. He was shot because he got into an altercation with an old fart with a gun. The texting led to the altercation but it did not lead to the shooting.

Once again, I am not on the side of the old fart. I don't have enough evidence one way or the other to make any analysis but it does sound like the dipshit will be spending some time in jail.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad · 01-14-2014, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

That must be why he was able to shoot two people with one bullet.

Unfortunately his wife was the Lone Survivor.

01-13-2014, 05:40 PM
Al Bundy Damnit Peg Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Overland Park Casino cash: $5381831	Texting in the theater in Florida? I don't think so... http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/story/2...-movie-theater WESLEY CHAPEL (FOX 13) - A moviegoer lost his life inside a Pasco County theater Monday afternoon after a dispute over texting with a retired police officer. According to the sheriff's office, the dispute happened before the 1:20 showing of 'Lone Survivor' had even gotten underway at the Cobb CineBistro at Grove 16 complex on Wesley Grove Blvd. Investigators say two couples had gotten into an argument over noise. "The victim was on his cell phone; he was texting. We believe he was making some kind of noise. This noise led to an altercation between the suspect and the victim," Sheriff Chris Nocco explained. A witness recalled seeing the agitated man -- later identified by deputies as Curtis Reeves -- get up and leave in an apparent attempt to find a manager. When he came back alone, the argument escalated. Charles Cummings told FOX 13 he heard the victim say he was texting his 3-year-old daughter before Reeves pulled out a pistol. "Their voices start going up, there seems to be a confrontation, somebody throws popcorn, then bang, he was shot," said Cummings, who was there to celebrate his birthday. "I heard the victim say, 'I can't believe...,' then he fell on us." "I asked if the guy was OK, and he started gurgling blood and then fell," recalled Cummings' son, who said he ran to call 911. Both the man, identified by deputies as Chad Oulson, and his wife Nicole were struck by the single shot. Oulson, 43, was hit in the chest and died, while Nicole was hit in the hand when she put her hand up in front of her husband. She suffered non-life-threatening injuries. An off-duty Sumter County deputy inside the theater was able to grab the gun and detain Reeves until deputies arrived, the sheriff added. Reeves, a 71-year-old retired Tampa police officer, was arrested and charged with second-degree murder. A 2005 Tampa Bay Times article also described him as a former director of security for Busch Gardens. Moments after he was named as the suspect, Tampa police issued a statement saying Reeves had retired back in 1993 as a captain. "He was instrumental in establishing the department's first Tactical Response Team," the statement explained. "We are not aware of any contact with the department since his departure more than 20 years ago." Nocco said his detectives considered if this could be a 'stand your ground' case but decided the criteria did not apply. "It's absolutely crazy it would rise to this level over somebody just texting in a movie theater," he offered. "I can't believe people would bring a gun to a movie," added Cummings, a Marine who served in Vietnam. "I can't believe they would argue and fight and shoot one another over popcorn or even a cell phone." Read more: http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/story/2...#ixzz2qKGDJNuj Follow us: @myfoxtampabay on Twitter \| FOX13TampaBay on Facebook
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jspchief BAMF Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Your Face Casino cash: $9998710	Obviously he had no choice but to shoot the guy. It's not like you can just walk out of a theater. And even if he could, why would he throw away $10 of his hard earned money when he can just kill someone instead. __________________ Courage is not the absence of fear but rather the judgment that something is more important than fear. The brave may not live forever but the cautious do not live at all.
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