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kevonm · 12-01-2013, 08:19 PM

http://www.amazon.com/l/ref=mh_rd_l?...device=desktop

Sorry if Q. Amazon delivered by drone helicopter type things coming soon.

Hammock Parties · 12-02-2013, 01:32 PM

This thing needs to be armed.

"PUT DOWN YOUR STOLEN AMAZON.COM PACKAGE. YOU HAVE 20 SECONDS TO COMPLY."

**Buehler445** · 12-02-2013, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

@ all the naysayers.

If innovation were left up to most of you we'd still be using horse & buggy for transport.

Double

@ all the "they took err jobz" fanatics. New technology creates more jobs than it replaces.

I've been naysaying it because of the FAA. The tech is easy.

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002

Impossible! Maybe so.

Instead of a mailbox, maybe Amazon will provide the population with an "Amazon box" that sends a signal to the drone to lead it and directs it to drop the load directly into it. (patent pending)

No. It can get close enough. Easy.

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Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.

And given the 7.8 meter accuracy of commercial GPS, then what?

You can get 3 meters hprizontally and more accurate with augmentation systems, but you're not going to get that from a cell phone.

Deere can get within like an inch with real time kinematic to support GPS. And retail that is like 7 large. I'm sure if you want that technology it can be in the thousand dollar range plus the base station.

Tech isn't the problem. FAA is.

**Buehler445** · 12-02-2013, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.

and just as enlightening on those who are naive enough to believe this is anything buy pure marketing at this point.

You should look up what Kevin Price is doing at KSU. With off the shelf shit. It's incredible. Like I said, tech isn't the problem. FAA is.

Coyote · 12-02-2013, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

You should look up what Kevin Price is doing at KSU. With off the shelf shit. It's incredible. Like I said, tech isn't the problem. FAA is.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel...rones/3805447/
Much of FAA airspace management is either radar based or procedural outside of restricted or prohibited airspace. A problem for unmanned air vehicles. It needs to move to a GPS based backbone. Civilian use of military GPS bandwidth (Garmin business model and John Deere and others applications) will only get tighter circular error probabilities. Expect other nav systems to mirror Military in that GPS even with all of the signal capability, now mainly uses Gps as a redundant or backup system for aviation. There are many vulnerabilities in a GPS based system but so what for civilian applications given all of the benefits.

mr. tegu · 12-02-2013, 03:14 PM

I don't doubt the technology is pretty easy for something like this. I do doubt the practicality though, especially for those living in an apartment complex. I don't think it can drop it right at many people's doors due to things like indoor entrances.

Assuming it can't open the door it is then relegated to dropping it off at the apartment complex lobby if it has one. The UPS guy goes into the lobby to deliver things, which is something the drone couldn't do. It would seem it would be up to building management to comply and provide some type of area specifically designed for delivery that is outside yet still enclosed on the apartment complex property.

Or they could just say screw it and not mess with delivering to apartments, which is fine as well. The inability to deliver to an apartment certainly wouldn't hinder the desire to implement these things.

**Buehler445** · 12-02-2013, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu

I don't doubt the technology is pretty easy for something like this. I do doubt the practicality though, especially for those living in an apartment complex. I don't think it can drop it right at many people's doors due to things like indoor entrances.

Assuming it can't open the door it is then relegated to dropping it off at the apartment complex lobby if it has one. The UPS guy goes into the lobby to deliver things, which is something the drone couldn't do. It would seem it would be up to building management to comply and provide some type of area specifically designed for delivery that is outside yet still enclosed on the apartment complex property.

Or they could just say screw it and not mess with delivering to apartments, which is fine as well. The inability to deliver to an apartment certainly wouldn't hinder the desire to implement these things.

They're only doing it for a 10 mile radius of a DC, so it would make sense to not include apartment buildings.

teedubya · 12-02-2013, 03:44 PM

I can't wait to test my paintball guns... and see if I can get some free shit! :-D

Demonpenz · 12-02-2013, 04:23 PM

oh no's I go back to jail where I will be surrounded by human peers who will treat me like a king.

**CrazyPhuD** · 12-02-2013, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu

I don't doubt the technology is pretty easy for something like this. I do doubt the practicality though, especially for those living in an apartment complex. I don't think it can drop it right at many people's doors due to things like indoor entrances.

Assuming it can't open the door it is then relegated to dropping it off at the apartment complex lobby if it has one. The UPS guy goes into the lobby to deliver things, which is something the drone couldn't do. It would seem it would be up to building management to comply and provide some type of area specifically designed for delivery that is outside yet still enclosed on the apartment complex property.

Or they could just say screw it and not mess with delivering to apartments, which is fine as well. The inability to deliver to an apartment certainly wouldn't hinder the desire to implement these things.

Honestly they've never do this for urban deliveries, it just doesn't make sense. Delivery via helicopter will be significantly less fuel efficient than delivery via truck. Additionally there's an old quote by Jim Gray that fits in here....'Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes driving on the highway.'

A well packed and routed truck in an urban area is going to destroy individual drones on an efficiency point of view. The only case where this would stop being true is if labor costs become the dominate factor in cost of delivery.

While this wouldn't make sense in an urban area it could make quite a bit of sense in a suburban or rural area(especially if USPS starts cutting back service/raising costs). Baring people with guns

, it's also a much easier technical problem.

Where this makes sense is where labor costs are extremely high, or where the travel distance and time per delivery is very high(i.e. rural routes where you have to drive a mile to deliver).

It also may be very useful in the warehouses, allowing them to send drones out to pick up order pieces and return them. This could optimize floor space by removing things like aisles that are needed for ground access.

Aries Walker · 12-02-2013, 05:58 PM

The idea is that you can get your package within thirty minutes of ordering. You can't do that with a truck. And they could (and already do) automate warehouses much more efficiently than by drone.

There would be a ton of problems with this. For one, it's surrounded by spinning blades; a malfunction or bad navigation could send it into, oh, let's say, a crowd. It would have problems with apartment deliveries. Its legality is dependent on the speed of government. It would be proned to theft or whee! vandalism. If more than one company piloted them, you'd need an air traffic control system. It would be subject to bad weather, birds, or trees. And it would be stupid expensive.

cosmo20002 · 12-02-2013, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ace Gunner

I'm really excited for the 600 folks in fernley, nevada.

Gambling, legal whores, and now drone-delivered packages. It will be like paradise there.

**CrazyPhuD** · 01-31-2014, 09:36 PM

Finally a good use for drones......except the government has since grounded them!

**TimeForWasp** · 01-31-2014, 10:34 PM

They will fly in flocks in a V formation.

**007** · 02-01-2014, 12:36 AM

This is such a stupid idea.

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mr. tegu Forever Royal Join Date: Mar 2012 Casino cash: $1961300	I don't doubt the technology is pretty easy for something like this. I do doubt the practicality though, especially for those living in an apartment complex. I don't think it can drop it right at many people's doors due to things like indoor entrances. Assuming it can't open the door it is then relegated to dropping it off at the apartment complex lobby if it has one. The UPS guy goes into the lobby to deliver things, which is something the drone couldn't do. It would seem it would be up to building management to comply and provide some type of area specifically designed for delivery that is outside yet still enclosed on the apartment complex property. Or they could just say screw it and not mess with delivering to apartments, which is fine as well. The inability to deliver to an apartment certainly wouldn't hinder the desire to implement these things.
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12-02-2013, 05:58 PM	#100
Aries Walker Back again, again. Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: York, PA Casino cash: $9583357	The idea is that you can get your package within thirty minutes of ordering. You can't do that with a truck. And they could (and already do) automate warehouses much more efficiently than by drone. There would be a ton of problems with this. For one, it's surrounded by spinning blades; a malfunction or bad navigation could send it into, oh, let's say, a crowd. It would have problems with apartment deliveries. Its legality is dependent on the speed of government. It would be proned to theft or whee! vandalism. If more than one company piloted them, you'd need an air traffic control system. It would be subject to bad weather, birds, or trees. And it would be stupid expensive.
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