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Old 02-18-2013, 09:44 PM   #1
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I am trying to understand this post.

Are you saying that somewhere in that pea brain of yours, you're rooting for Matt Cassel to be our QB? That you believe he can be a good NFL QB?
I'm saying, I'm more of a realist than you. I don't care to see him wear red and gold ever again, even if it was at McDonalds. But I also don't pretend to know if Matt casshole could salvage his career or not, here, someplace else or as a bag boy for save-a-lot. All I'm saying is it would be funny/ entertaining to me. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Old 02-18-2013, 09:48 PM   #2
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I'm saying, I'm more of a realist than you. I don't care to see him wear red and gold ever again, even if it was at McDonalds. But I also don't pretend to know if Matt casshole could salvage his career or not, here, someplace else or as a bag boy for save-a-lot. All I'm saying is it would be funny/ entertaining to me. Nothing more, nothing less.
There is no way Cassel salvages what little career he's had. His poor pocket presence, inability to complete throws under pressure, lack of accuracy, poor throwing mechanics + slow release, and inability to complete throws down the field are so significant that at his age it is literally impossible.
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Old 02-18-2013, 09:50 PM   #3
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There is no way Cassel salvages what little career he's had. His poor pocket presence, inability to complete throws under pressure, lack of accuracy, poor throwing mechanics + slow release, and inability to complete throws down the field are so significant that at his age it is literally impossible.
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Old 02-18-2013, 09:51 PM   #4
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There is no way Cassel salvages what little career he's had. His poor pocket presence, inability to complete throws under pressure, lack of accuracy, poor throwing mechanics + slow release, and inability to complete throws down the field are so significant that at his age it is literally impossible.
And many thought there was literally no way Hali would ever be successful in the 3-4. Again I say, you just don't know. Weis got production out if him. Again, to reiterate for the mouth breathers, I am not saying I want him to stay.
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Old 02-18-2013, 09:52 PM   #5
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And many thought there was literally no way Hali would ever be successful in the 3-4. Again I say, you just don't know. Weis got production out if him. Again, to reiterate for the mouth breathers, I am not saying I want him to stay.
And many thought priest wouldn't even make the team after his injury, again I said, you never know. Now in priest's and Hali's cases I WAS rooting for them.
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Old 02-18-2013, 10:05 PM   #6
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And many thought priest wouldn't even make the team after his injury, again I said, you never know. Now in priest's and Hali's cases I WAS rooting for them.
Priest and Hali had ACTUAL TALENT.

And in Priest's case, most people thought he wouldn't regain his old form, and he never did. It was an embarrassingly pathetic "comeback."
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Old 02-18-2013, 10:23 PM   #7
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Priest and Hali had ACTUAL TALENT.

And in Priest's case, most people thought he wouldn't regain his old form, and he never did. It was an embarrassingly pathetic "comeback."
You've been in the basement on CP too much. Every player to sign an NFL contract has talent. Matt is grossly overpaid for what he's done as a chief. But he can throw a football. And weis proved Matt could have success not in NE. Can Matt get back to that season? I don't know, and neither do you. You just think its easier to sling shit, call names and use absolutes.
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Old 02-18-2013, 10:35 PM   #8
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You've been in the basement on CP too much. Every player to sign an NFL contract has talent. Matt is grossly overpaid for what he's done as a chief. But he can throw a football. And weis proved Matt could have success not in NE. Can Matt get back to that season? I don't know, and neither do you. You just think its easier to sling shit, call names and use absolutes.


Matt CAN'T get back to that season because he won't face the easiest schedule in the NFL with the best rushing attack and a perfect storm from his WR, OC and multiple DBs dropping INTs EVER AGAIN.

And even IF he did, he'd blow it in the playoffs again. That's not "successful."

Perhaps I chose my words poorly. Matt Cassel isn't a good player. Hali and Priest are and were. Big difference.
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You've been in the basement on CP too much. Every player to sign an NFL contract has talent. Matt is grossly overpaid for what he's done as a chief. But he can throw a football. And weis proved Matt could have success not in NE. Can Matt get back to that season? I don't know, and neither do you. You just think its easier to sling shit, call names and use absolutes.
I think you're forgetting just how historically bad the Chiefs were with Matt Cassel this year.

While not historically bad, they were almost as ineffective last year with Cassel as well.
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And many thought there was literally no way Hali would ever be successful in the 3-4. Again I say, you just don't know. Weis got production out if him. Again, to reiterate for the mouth breathers, I am not saying I want him to stay.
Completely different situations and an extremely poor comparison.
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Completely different positions but an extremely apt comparison.

FYP.
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Not even remotely.

In Tamba, you had a young guy who actually had the frame/skills to play as a 3-4 OLB or the Elephant. Additionally, he busted his ass to get better and due to his talent it paid off.

Cassel busted his ass as well (probably, I wasn't there for OTAs, weights, film study, etc) and it didn't pay off due to his lack of talent.

The reason you keep claiming that Weiss was able to get production out of Cassel is due largely in part to an incredibly weak schedule, limiting his throw selections, and an elite run game.

You honestly think that a guy who is 30 and has his confidence shot has a remote chance of learning how to go through his progressions, develop semblance of pocket presence, will fix his release, and learn how to be effective against 5+ rushers?

This is a completely different scenario than say, Kurt Warner as Warner had already demonstrated those skills repeatedly on a consistent basis. There is literally no way that Cassel becomes an effective QB (top 16).
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Old 02-18-2013, 10:03 PM   #13
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I also don't pretend to know if Matt casshole could salvage his career or not.


Guys like Matt Cassel don't have good NFL careers.

It's like asking if Gus Frerotte could salvage his career.

You say you're a realist...why ignore the reality of every other shitty QB that has come through the league?

Cassel isn't suddenly going to develop pocket presence, accuracy or non-shitty Qb traits at 31.

He's done.
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