Chiefs If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick. - Page 171

ShowtimeSBMVP · 05-06-2013, 07:21 AM

A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season.

So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way.

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**Mav** · 05-19-2013, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Soooooooo...they were willing to let Smith walk...

That's what they said, but we all know that he was going to get traded, they just set the bar high, a lot higher than anyone thought, and the chiefs bit. cant be mad at the 49ers for that, but that's not the point, the point was, if they wanted to, they could of kept him. They called everyones bluff, and the chiefs called it.

**Mav** · 05-19-2013, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Smith being let go after year 2 is a PROBABILITY...

Shrugs. depends on this season. You have to have someone to replace the player you have don't you think? Or are you that firm of a believer in Tyler Bray, or Chase Daniel?

ATM id rather have alex smith.

**SAUTO** · 05-19-2013, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

Reports are he will be done before Camp. And aldon smith wont have his done for two more years. Next year they have to resign Cowboy, and Crabtree before they hit the market, and redo Kaep.

You just said they would not have re done it. They haven't
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**Rausch** · 05-19-2013, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

That's what they said, but we all know that he was going to get traded, they just set the bar high, a lot higher than anyone thought, and the chiefs bit.

True.

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

...cant be mad at the 49ers for that...

I can and will for years.

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

but that's not the point, the point was, if they wanted to, they could of kept him. They called everyones bluff, and the chiefs called it.

That was never going to happen.

NEVER...

chiefzilla1501 · 05-19-2013, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

If you look at the franchises that needed quarterbacks it really shouldn't suprise you given their track records with quarterbacks - Chiefs, Raiders, Cardinals, and Bills. Not exactly the teams that draft quarterbacks in the first place.

I think it's more important to look at who's drafting the QB, not necessarily the team.

Andy Reid, Bruce Arians, Doug Marrone are all QB guys. Chip Kelly is an offensive guy. Chudzinski/Norv Turner are QB guys. Then you have the Jets, Jaguars, Vikings, Titans.

I think it's pretty apparent that there were plenty of teams who needed a QB and understand the importance of the position, but just didn't like what was out there.

Chiefshrink · 05-19-2013, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

yes, essentially the chiefs were bidding against themselves, and they went all in.

No other teams involved ? Seriously ? You don't go all in 'initially' giving up 2-2nd picks when you are the only bidder.

**Rausch** · 05-19-2013, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

No other teams involved ? Seriously ? You don't go all in 'initially' giving up 2-2nd picks when you are the only bidder.

We do.

**Mav** · 05-19-2013, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

You just said they would not have re done it. They haven't
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Okay fine, ill go back to this point I guess when its actually done

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Originally Posted by Rausch

True.

I can and will for years.
I cant blame you here, unless it works out for the chiefs, then ill remind you of it lol

That was never going to happen.

NEVER...

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I think it's more important to look at who's drafting the QB, not necessarily the team.

Andy Reid, Bruce Arians, Doug Marrone are all QB guys. Chip Kelly is an offensive guy. Chudzinski/Norv Turner are QB guys. Then you have the Jets, Jaguars, Vikings, Titans.

I think it's pretty apparent that there were plenty of teams who needed a QB and understand the importance of the position, but just didn't like what was out there.

they finally have a guy who understands qbs. marty Mohrningweg. Very much like norv, he is just an awful head coach, but man, he can call a game, and puts his qbs in postions to succeed.

**Mav** · 05-19-2013, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

No other teams involved ? Seriously ? You don't go all in 'initially' giving up 2-2nd picks when you are the only bidder.

No no, you are missing the point, now, you nor I know exactly what went on, but it was said that the Chiefs were the ONLY TEAM to offer two picks, so at that point, they were bidding against themselves. And again, that could be false but from an outside observer, you can only take what you hear......

Messier · 05-19-2013, 12:49 PM

The stories about how no other teams were involved came out just days before the deal with the Chiefs was leaked. It could be that at no time was another team involved, but if they knew the Chiefs early on negotiated a deal for Smith, they'd claim no involvement.

If the Chiefs walked away, Smith would've been traded to someone. For what I have no idea.

**Mav** · 05-19-2013, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier

The stories about how no other teams were involved came out just days before the deal with the Chiefs was leaked. It could be that at no time was another team involved, but if they knew the Chiefs early on negotiated a deal for Smith, they'd claim no involvement.

If the Chiefs walked away, Smith would've been traded to someone. For what I have no idea.

Unlucky for the chiefs fans that are upset, lucky for alex smith.

This was the best possible scenario for HIM, not necessarily the chiefs fans that hate the move, and wanted a qb drafted 1.1.

OrtonsPiercedTaint · 05-19-2013, 01:46 PM

I believe(for no other reason than I want to) the bidding was between the Chiefs and Bills. Cards are in their division and the Jets had cap issues at the time. Not letting the Bills have him is an error in my opinion, we will see.

ChiefAshhole20 · 05-19-2013, 01:50 PM

Holy ****ing shit people, y'all can't seriously think that SF was just going to let Smith go. Don't believe everything you read on the Internet. They knew they were going to get something for Smith, LOOK AT THE MARKET THIS YEAR, he was obviously the best of the crop. Worst case scenario is that they'd keep him another year and keep him as a high level backup, hell, they'd still have less of a total cap hit at the QB position than a good part of the league.

Rasputin · 05-19-2013, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

Unlucky for the chiefs fans that are upset, lucky for alex smith.

This was the best possible scenario for HIM, not necessarily the chiefs fans that hate the move, and wanted a qb drafted 1.1.

This "best fit scenario for Smith" is going be dependent just on how well he plays for KC and win over some of these fans. If he struggles early and we don't get some wins it could get ugly for him. Depends on how the crowd is going handle if we don't get some wins.

The expectations are going be high and more demanding than in San Fran. Coach Reid says he wants a passing attack and pass often offense so the pressure is really on Alex Smith to perform. It's going depend on Andy Reid recognizing Alex Smith faults also and see if he allows the running game to help him out.

They have to go out and prove that this trade was worth it and I think they don't have much window of opportunity to do it.

Chiefs fans are wanting results we are expecting results in wins.

So this could be a good fit for Alex Smith to get an uncontested starting job but the pressure to win is on him.

OrtonsPiercedTaint · 05-19-2013, 02:00 PM

The Chiefs haven't had a QB play healthy for a whole season in years. Herm's was a M*A*S*H unit. Welcome Alex!

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ShowtimeSBMVP Chiefs Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $3546009	If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick. A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season. So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way. Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl...#ixzz2SWCd8Gea
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Messier MVP Join Date: Mar 2004 Casino cash: $10005050	The stories about how no other teams were involved came out just days before the deal with the Chiefs was leaked. It could be that at no time was another team involved, but if they knew the Chiefs early on negotiated a deal for Smith, they'd claim no involvement. If the Chiefs walked away, Smith would've been traded to someone. For what I have no idea.
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OrtonsPiercedTaint MVP Join Date: Dec 2012 Casino cash: $10004980	I believe(for no other reason than I want to) the bidding was between the Chiefs and Bills. Cards are in their division and the Jets had cap issues at the time. Not letting the Bills have him is an error in my opinion, we will see.
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ChiefAshhole20 Starter Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Houston, TX Casino cash: $10005862	Holy ****ing shit people, y'all can't seriously think that SF was just going to let Smith go. Don't believe everything you read on the Internet. They knew they were going to get something for Smith, LOOK AT THE MARKET THIS YEAR, he was obviously the best of the crop. Worst case scenario is that they'd keep him another year and keep him as a high level backup, hell, they'd still have less of a total cap hit at the QB position than a good part of the league.
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