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ayleswbj · 09-18-2013, 08:08 AM

Big Cat, you guys bitch about Alex Smiths history and say he cant do this and cant do that and then go an compare him to one of the biggest under achievers in league history. Vick is a dynamic injury prone QB that has never won anything. In 12 freaking seasons, he has 2 playoffs wins. Hes a career 55% completion rate and has only passed for 20,000 yrds in 12 seasons. His career history is just as bad as Smiths for being a top pick. Yea hes dynamic looking but when you come down to it thats all rainbows and bubble gum. The guy doesnt finish seasons and he doesnt win, over the course of a whole season is completely inaccurate with the football, also loses and avg of 8 fumbles a season over the course of his career along with the ints. 2 out of 12 seasons has he ever completed 60% of his passes. If you need a bigger sample size of avg i just dont know where your going to find it. He rushed for alot of yards when he was young. Thats pretty good i guess

BigCatDaddy · 09-18-2013, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ayleswbj

Big Cat, you guys bitch about Alex Smiths history and say he cant do this and cant do that and then go an compare him to one of the biggest under achievers in league history. Vick is a dynamic injury prone QB that has never won anything. In 12 freaking seasons, he has 2 playoffs wins. Hes a career 55% completion rate and has only passed for 20,000 yrds in 12 seasons. His career history is just as bad as Smiths for being a top pick. Yea hes dynamic looking but when you come down to it thats all rainbows and bubble gum. The guy doesnt finish seasons and he doesnt win, over the course of a whole season is completely inaccurate with the football, also loses and avg of 8 fumbles a season over the course of his career along with the ints. 2 out of 12 seasons has he ever completed 60% of his passes. If you need a bigger sample size of avg i just dont know where your going to find it. He rushed for alot of yards when he was young. Thats pretty good i guess

I wasn't advocating or comparing Vick. I was using the game he had Sunday as an example.

Omaha · 09-18-2013, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Great use of that pic.

BigCatDaddy · 09-18-2013, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Omaha

I've been thinking about the comparison between Smith/Green lately. I would take Smith over Green. I think Smith looks better throwing the ball. His passes have more zip and he is way more athletic. Not to take anything away from Green's successes, but Green had ridiculous talent surrounding him when he was playing at a high level. A few years prior to that, he was awful. There's still a long way to go, but I've been pleasantly surprised with Smith.

This is just dumb on so many levels. Green had a season where he damn near averaged 300 yards a game passing with a 67 percent completion percentage. Green could actually throw to WR's and get the ball down field. He was a top 5-10 QB in his best days. It's been so long that I think you forgot just how good the guy was.

ayleswbj · 09-18-2013, 08:18 AM

As for your point that Alex tanked in the title game, he is the only guy who made a big play to have them in the game. Throw out the comp % , i was at this game and many others in SF, never been in this kind of weather for a football game ever in my life. His 76 yrder to Davis, another 37 yrdr and was winning. No turnovers whatsoever in a defensive battle. It took Eli 58 attempts to get to 300 yrds an avg a meager 5 yrds attempt. Smith did not tank that game at all. I agree with alot of what you say about his play from when he was drafted. But you had to be at that game to see how gritty an tough it was.

BigCatDaddy · 09-18-2013, 08:19 AM

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I don't think Philly is putting up 28 on the Chiefs D.

Maybe not, but as awesome as the 49ers defense was last year they gave up >24 points in 25% of their regular season games last year. It's going to happen eventually and happen more than a few times. Those games are the games that will define Alice.

ayleswbj · 09-18-2013, 08:26 AM

That totally fair about what your saying about vick then, but from what ive been seeing I think Alex will have the opportunity to do that when KC has a few more offensive playmakers. Vick is playing with a full house right now, KC has really good players but still needs one or two more dynamo's. Its no secret that Vick is much more dynamic and athletic, they just get it done in different ways. Smiths brand of football certainly is not the 2013 type FB people are getting used to. Doesnt mean its any less effective

ayleswbj · 09-18-2013, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Maybe not, but as awesome as the 49ers defense was last year they gave up >24 points in 25% of their regular season games last year. It's going to happen and eventually and happen more than a few times. Those games are the games that will define Alice.

Totally agree and hope he surprises everyone for the KC Chiefs sake. Would love for them to be perennially good again

Alex Smiff · 09-18-2013, 08:30 AM

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Don't like you and have no interest in communicating with you... but I don't like the twisting of this.

First, I don't give a shit what Smith did or didn't do many years ago with garbage team and coaches. I respect trends for players in the NFL.

So that said, and judging off of the last 40 games of Smith with quality coaching....

There have been only a few games where it can be considered that Smith and his team fell behind by multiple scores, and he AND the team didn't respond with a brilliant comeback late in the game.

- 1 from 2011 @ Baltimore. (and every SF fan admits that NO ONE played well that night)

- 2 from 2012 @ Minnesota and vs the NYG
The Vikings really out-schemed and shocked us.. and pretty sure that Ponder had the best game of his shitty life. Late in the 3rd, Alex brought us back with a TD drive to close their lead to 4... but the Vikes scored yet another TD and forced our offense to start.. forcing things. It happens.

The NYG game got out of hand in the 2nd half, and Alex and his busted up middle finger did not respond well. It happens.

- 1 from 2010 @ SD (and every SF fan that even remembers that game should know that once again, NO ONE played well that game)

Now then, you add in all of the far more comeback wins... and then you have... well, what pretty much all good QBs deal with. A favorable mix of wins, comebacks, and failed comebacks.

The fact that the SF defense rarely allowed opponents to distance themselves? The reality that when teams rarely did? it caught us by surprise, as we were not a team ever built to come back from multiple deficits..

Aaaah whatever... let's just take the easy, thoughtless route and wail out "Alex is teh suxxorz!"

It's just much easier to be a simpleton instead of actually exercising the brain, so carry on...

How old are you?

Alex Smiff · 09-18-2013, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Omaha

I've been thinking about the comparison between Smith/Green lately. I would take Smith over Green. I think Smith looks better throwing the ball. His passes have more zip and he is way more athletic. Not to take anything away from Green's successes, but Green had ridiculous talent surrounding him when he was playing at a high level. A few years prior to that, he was awful. There's still a long way to go, but I've been pleasantly surprised with Smith.

This is the type of reeruned shit you hear from Smith fanboys. It's like the twilight zone.

Omaha · 09-18-2013, 08:40 AM

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This is the type of reeruned shit you hear from Smith fanboys. It's like the twilight zone.

Go **** yourself with a fork. I've never been a "Smith fanboy." I said I've been pleasantly surprised by his play. Who hasn't been?

Alex Smiff · 09-18-2013, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ayleswbj

Big Cat, you guys bitch about Alex Smiths history and say he cant do this and cant do that and then go an compare him to one of the biggest under achievers in league history. Vick is a dynamic injury prone QB that has never won anything. In 12 freaking seasons, he has 2 playoffs wins. Hes a career 55% completion rate and has only passed for 20,000 yrds in 12 seasons. His career history is just as bad as Smiths for being a top pick. Yea hes dynamic looking but when you come down to it thats all rainbows and bubble gum. The guy doesnt finish seasons and he doesnt win, over the course of a whole season is completely inaccurate with the football, also loses and avg of 8 fumbles a season over the course of his career along with the ints. 2 out of 12 seasons has he ever completed 60% of his passes. If you need a bigger sample size of avg i just dont know where your going to find it. He rushed for alot of yards when he was young. Thats pretty good i guess

And yet he's still accomplished more than Alex Smith. Vick and Smith are asked to do different things. Vick is asked to win games. Smith is asked to "not **** anything up". Who cares about completion % when you make a living off of screens and checkdowns. The one thing I'll give Smith is he doesn't turn the ball over. That's it.

Alex Smiff · 09-18-2013, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Omaha

Go **** yourself with a fork. I've never been a "Smith fanboy." I said I've been pleasantly surprised by his play. Who hasn't been?

You can go **** yourself for this statement:

"I would take Smith over Green" was downright reeruned."

ayleswbj · 09-18-2013, 08:46 AM

What has he accomplished again? A bit of insight would be helpful. Yes hes got more rushing yards and one more playoff win, but thats in 12 seasons compared to Smiths 8. 2 of which were spent on injured reserve. So please tell me what Vick has accomplished?

Tiger's Fan · 09-18-2013, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Omaha

I've been thinking about the comparison between Smith/Green lately. I would take Smith over Green. I think Smith looks better throwing the ball. His passes have more zip and he is way more athletic. Not to take anything away from Green's successes, but Green had ridiculous talent surrounding him when he was playing at a high level. A few years prior to that, he was awful. There's still a long way to go, but I've been pleasantly surprised with Smith.

This is easily the single dumbest post I've ever read on this site.

And speaking of dumb posts, will this board be infested with 9er fans from now on? Hopefully it's just a passing fad, because all the Alex Smith ball washing has to be making everyone else as sick as it does me. We get it, you love him. I've never seen such worship for such a mediocre player in my long miserable life. I can't think of one single great player I would follow to another teams BB, let alone a very average one. I mean, Tony Gonzalez is the greatest TE, and one of the greatest receivers in the history of the game and I wouldn't have ever considered becoming a Falcons fan because of him.

People are just ****ing crazy I guess. I shouldn't be suprised.

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ayleswbj Starter Join Date: Mar 2013 Casino cash: $10005287	Big Cat, you guys bitch about Alex Smiths history and say he cant do this and cant do that and then go an compare him to one of the biggest under achievers in league history. Vick is a dynamic injury prone QB that has never won anything. In 12 freaking seasons, he has 2 playoffs wins. Hes a career 55% completion rate and has only passed for 20,000 yrds in 12 seasons. His career history is just as bad as Smiths for being a top pick. Yea hes dynamic looking but when you come down to it thats all rainbows and bubble gum. The guy doesnt finish seasons and he doesnt win, over the course of a whole season is completely inaccurate with the football, also loses and avg of 8 fumbles a season over the course of his career along with the ints. 2 out of 12 seasons has he ever completed 60% of his passes. If you need a bigger sample size of avg i just dont know where your going to find it. He rushed for alot of yards when he was young. Thats pretty good i guess
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ayleswbj Starter Join Date: Mar 2013 Casino cash: $10005287	As for your point that Alex tanked in the title game, he is the only guy who made a big play to have them in the game. Throw out the comp % , i was at this game and many others in SF, never been in this kind of weather for a football game ever in my life. His 76 yrder to Davis, another 37 yrdr and was winning. No turnovers whatsoever in a defensive battle. It took Eli 58 attempts to get to 300 yrds an avg a meager 5 yrds attempt. Smith did not tank that game at all. I agree with alot of what you say about his play from when he was drafted. But you had to be at that game to see how gritty an tough it was.
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ayleswbj Starter Join Date: Mar 2013 Casino cash: $10005287	That totally fair about what your saying about vick then, but from what ive been seeing I think Alex will have the opportunity to do that when KC has a few more offensive playmakers. Vick is playing with a full house right now, KC has really good players but still needs one or two more dynamo's. Its no secret that Vick is much more dynamic and athletic, they just get it done in different ways. Smiths brand of football certainly is not the 2013 type FB people are getting used to. Doesnt mean its any less effective
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09-18-2013, 08:46 AM	#4139
ayleswbj Starter Join Date: Mar 2013 Casino cash: $10005287	What has he accomplished again? A bit of insight would be helpful. Yes hes got more rushing yards and one more playoff win, but thats in 12 seasons compared to Smiths 8. 2 of which were spent on injured reserve. So please tell me what Vick has accomplished?
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