KSU vs Alabama for Natl Champion - Who wins?

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Raiderhader

JFC. Did you really just compare the NFL playoff system to the BCS? You are about as stupid as TheGaurdian.

Yes, to the extent that they are both playoff systems, they both decide champions, and they both erase/render irrelevant regular season results (which is what we were talking about). What isn't clear about that?

[Raiderhater]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Yes, to the extent that they are both playoff systems, they both decide champions, and they both erase regular season results (which is what we were talking about). What isn't clear about that?

The NCG is not a playoff. It is the only post season game that decides the champion. There is no post season gauntlet that teams must go through playing the other top teams to get to that game. Instead we get a 1/3 "objective" computer rankings and a biased 2/3 human vote.

But yeah, same thing.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Raiderhader

The NCG is not a playoff. It is the only post season game that decides the champion. There is no post season gauntlet that teams must go through playing the other top teams to get to that game. Instead we get a 1/3 "objective" computer rankings and a biased 2/3 human vote.

But yeah, same thing.

By definition, the National Championship game is a two team playoff and renders regular season results irrelevant like any other playoff system. You can debate the merits of such a system all you want, but don't try to tell me Alabama wasn't the best team in college football in 2011 because they lost a regular season game. The logic doesn't add up (unless you want to apply that same ridiculous regular season principle to every sport and therefore call the 2007 Patriots co-champs).

[Raiderhater]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

By definition, the National Championship game is a two team playoff and renders regular season results irrelevant like any other playoff system. You can debate the merits of such a system all you want, but don't try to tell me Alabama wasn't the best team in college football in 2011 because they lost a regular season game. The logic doesn't add up (unless you want to apply that same ridiculous regular season principle to every sport and therefore call the 2007 Patriots co-champs).

We really can't say they were or were not the best team.

Sorry dude but, you have lost all credibility insisting the NFL playoffs equal the BCS system.

BCS = NFL playoffs =

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Raiderhader

We really can't say they were or were not the best team.

If you believe in the merits of a final, deciding, win-all championship game (and it seems that you do judging by your defense of the NFL and its Super Bowl), then we can. Such playoff games simply mean more than regular season games (in the same way that winning the US Open in golf means more than winning the John Deere Open). In this specific case of 2011 Alabama, though, you could even use the eye test to make that determination.

Sorry dude but, you have lost all credibility insisting the NFL playoffs equal the BCS system.

BCS = NFL playoffs =

Never said that (beyond their similarity as playoff systems that decide a champion and erase reg. season results), but keep attacking that straw man.