Rumor: LJ to Dallas - Page 4

**sd4chiefs** · 07-02-2007, 02:09 PM

Sorry if repost.

http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=67&p=2&c=655744

Don't Believe the Hype: LJ to Dallas?

Larry Johnson By Mike Fisher
TheRanchReport.com
Posted Jul 1, 2007

IRVING, Texas -- There could be a sliver of truth in every rumor. A grain of reality in every gossip item. Think of it like professional wrestling, which is all fake. ... except for the dying part.

The speculation about a trade that would ship Larry Johnson to Dallas is like that. It's all rumors; I've dug around Valley Ranch, trying to confirm that there have been substantive discussions with Kansas City regarding the disgruntled superstar running back, and all I got from it is an empty shovel, an empty notepad and a sore back.

Except for one sliver. One grain.

"The (Dallas) running backs don't offer that 'wow' factor,'' says a source close to the innerworkings of the Cowboys. "There isn't that guy who, when he gets his hands on the ball, makes everybody stand up and take notice.''

That observation is a far, far cry from "Therefore, we're going to trade for L.J.'' It is also a far, far cry from saying, "JuJo, MB3 and Tyson Thompson stink.''

But it is an acknowledgement of sorts that Julius Jones isn't considered to be as "special'' as we thought him to be as a rookie, that Marion Barber isn't yet considered to be anything more than solid (rather than spectacular), and that Thompson -- who I'm told has done intense offseason work in an attempt to add flexibility to his speedy-but-stiff running style -- isn't considered at all.

Contrast that with the Chiefs' Johnson, the Pro Bowler with fresh legs and a fresh mind and a confrontational approach to running the football. He's probably the best thing this side of LaDainian Tomlinson, a record-setting power back who is also a scoring machine and a home-run hitter.

Larry Johnson has that elusive "wow'' factor.

Maybe Julius Jones gets it back. This is a kid who once talked about rushing for a crazy number of yards. ... only none of us thought it was all that crazy at the time. Maybe MB3 gets more carries and demonstates that he does indeed have it. If Barber is truly a guy who gets stronger with more carries, maybe you gotta give him more carries. Or heck, maybe you hold onto whatever ammunition it would take to pry Johnson from Kansas City (a first? a second?) and use it in next year's draft to secure Darren McFadden, who is going to be seeing a lot of ol' Razorback Jerry Jones this fall every Saturday in Arkansas.

The Cowboys have a question mark. The Chiefs, though, have it worse -- because the situation teases them in that they have the answer AND the question mark, all rolled into one.

The Chiefs are in for a difficult summer. Johnson is slated to make $1.7 million. He'll pass. He'll sit. He'll mope. He'll whine. He'll argue that he IS the Chiefs' chance to be a contender, and his 416 carries last year says it is so.

He's 27, so he's in his prime. Oh, and "27'' is probably a pivotal number in another way: One report says that's how much in guaranteed money it'll take Kansas City to get possible holdout LJ to show up for work.

Do the Cowboys want that price tag, in terms of dollars and tradeable assets? Do the Cowboys want Larry Johnson, alleged to be something of a flake? Do the Cowboys want that "wow factor'' at running back?

I don't know that they want it in the form of Larry Johnson. But I know that

DTLB58 · 07-02-2007, 04:17 PM

How many years did we struggle to find an elite RB? Now we have one and all everybody does is talk about trading him!

Halfcan · 07-02-2007, 04:21 PM

RUMOR:

LJ will play for the KC Chiefs next year. Quoting an unnamed source out of Arrowhead-LJ has the "wow" factor-so they like him.

**sd4chiefs** · 07-02-2007, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace

Is there a reason the second half of the final sentence was left off? Do you have something against "they aren't certain they have it now." or something? Huh?

I was in a hurry to start this thread before someone else did.

Frankie · 07-02-2007, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DTLB58

How many years did we struggle to find an elite RB? Now we have one and all everybody does is talk about trading him!

Before LJ, we had Priest. Don't forget.

**HemiEd** · 07-02-2007, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

and this is exactly why im torn about trading LJ. Sure, RB is the easiest position to replace, but guys like him are special. We waited forever to get an "elite" RB. we finally have one and now we just want to get rid of him?? Hes a sure thing, draft picks are not.

Buzzkill! No fair talking sense! I don't like him, but he is a great RB. This team spent a lot of number 1s on busts.

Logical · 07-02-2007, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

We might be able to get 2 first-rounders for him. **** being "competitive".

Amen

Logical · 07-02-2007, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

and this is exactly why im torn about trading LJ. Sure, RB is the easiest position to replace, but guys like him are special. We waited forever to get an "elite" RB. we finally have one and now we just want to get rid of him?? Hes a sure thing, draft picks are not.

We had an elite runningback before LJ in Priest Holmes, how could people forget.

greg63 · 07-02-2007, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by H5N1

sh*t, what are they offering? we'd be dumb not to at least listen to offers on ANY of our players if we're trying to get younger.

LJ is still a young man.

Valiant · 07-02-2007, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JBucc

I would take two firsts without hesitation, but I don't think Jerry Jones is that stupid. Why give up two firsts and have to pay LJ a massive contract when you could keep those picks, and have your choice of McFadden/Slaton/Stewart/Rice to go along with Marion Barber.

Some owners think getting championships are more important then saving money...

CoMoChief · 07-02-2007, 05:50 PM

In Mike Cloud, we trust.

**HemiEd** · 07-02-2007, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

In Mike Cloud, we trust.

and Ethan Horton, Greg Hill, Sheehee etc. etc.

Sully · 07-02-2007, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Logical

We had an elite runningback before LJ in Priest Holmes, how could people forget.

And before that?
Mike Cloud
Greg Hill
Rashaan Shehee
Donnell Bennett
Jesse Haynes

PinkFloyd · 07-02-2007, 06:09 PM

Oh its true !!! My best friend has a doctor friend who's sister knows this firefighter in India and his cousin has a midget brother on his aunts side of the family, and this aunt's cousin ran into her brother who's friend is a proctologist and one of his patients moms said that her sister found out from a guy who goes noodling with this other guy and his girlfriend was found having sex with another woman and SHE told me it was true !!!

He's a goner !!!

greg63 · 07-02-2007, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by PinkFloyd

Oh its true !!! My best friend has a doctor friend who's sister knows this firefighter in India and his cousin has a midget brother on his aunts side of the family, and this aunt's cousin ran into her brother who's friend is a proctologist and one of his patients moms said that her sister found out from a guy who goes noodling with this other guy and his girlfriend was found having sex with another woman and SHE told me it was true !!!

He's a goner !!!

LOL!!!

Was she wearing a red bikini?

splatbass · 07-02-2007, 06:26 PM

IF Dallas was willing to give up 2 first round picks for LJ ( a BIG if) that would mean that they believe that they can get more production from him than from the two picks. If that is true for them, why wouldn't it be true for us, especially with CP making the picks?

I think it would be insane to give up a proven RB for two unknowns that could as easily be busts as anything. I like to gamble, but those odds aren't very good, I wouldn't take that bet.

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