So What Exactly Is The Problem With The O???

PastorMikH · 03:25 PM

I am just in complete disbelief in what I am seeing. We finally are showing signs of life on D and our O has fallen apart. For the last 3 years we have had one of the best offenses in the NFL. Today we can't even score a TD. Why is this?

Are teams figuring our Offense out?

Has Old Age rendered our O as average?

Is Roaf's injury that big?

Is letting Morton go hurting our passing game more than we thougth it would?

Is Saunders trying to tank because he's upset about the HC situation next season?

Have the players given up on DV?

No Heart/Desire?

Why???

plbrdude · 11-13-2005, 03:06 PM

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

ArrowheadHawk · 11-13-2005, 03:07 PM

dick vermeil ****ing sux thats the problem and this game just ended in dejafu with a ****ing green sack throw the godamn ball

**cdcox** · 11-13-2005, 03:08 PM

**Dunit35** · 11-13-2005, 03:11 PM

playing down to other teams levels.

JBucc · 11-13-2005, 03:08 PM

O-line sucks, Green can't throw, LJ can run, but Al doesn't want to do what works, we have no WR's, D still gives up big plays and some other shit.

milkman · 11-13-2005, 03:10 PM

The Problem.

Four words.

Carl.

Dick.

Al.

Gun.

KCJake · 11-13-2005, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SideWinder

The Problem.

Four words.

Carl.

Dick.

Al.

Gun.

What the hell does Gun have to do with the offense sucking?

**Skip Towne** · 11-13-2005, 03:28 PM

For a hundred years, when the D is rushing the passer hard, draws and screens always work. Did anyone see either a draw or screen today? Even one? Anybody?

penchief · 11-13-2005, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skip Towne

For a hundred years, when the D is rushing the passer hard, draws and screens always work. Did anyone see either a draw or screen today? Even one? Anybody?

Screens? No.

Draws? I saw one draw to LJ that I thought worked pretty well.

Coogs · 11-13-2005, 03:44 PM

This one is all on AS IMO. The table was set in the first half. Kicking the crap out of them with LJ and a couple of play action passes. Then we get down in scoring range, and forget LJ and revert to straight drop back passes. Killed every single scoring opportunity. Even took LJ out once we got into scoring range.... more than one time too!

And Mike Solari (sp).... I thought he was supposed to be a tremendous OL coach. And he is with Roaf, Waters, Weigmann, Shields, and Tait. (I think I could do pretty good with that bunch too) All the replacements and draft choices groomed under Solari have done squat. Overrated in my books.

htismaqe · 11-13-2005, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skip Towne

For a hundred years, when the D is rushing the passer hard, draws and screens always work. Did anyone see either a draw or screen today? Even one? Anybody?

We used both a couple of times. Of course, when is was 3rd and 3, we run a 4-wide empty backfield...

MichaelH · 11-13-2005, 03:12 PM

Instead of fixing the problems, the inept management keeps putting tape on the team hoping to get it to run another 1000 miles.

suds79 · 11-13-2005, 03:12 PM

Problems.

# 1 - Offensive Tackle. Our Tackles are the worse in the league by far.

# 2 - WR Core. Our WR is just as bad as it was in DV's 1st year. I mean it's really bad.

penchief · 11-13-2005, 03:24 PM

The way I perceive our problems, in order of severity.

1. Our receivers suck. Kennison makes plays on occasion but he would be a number three on most teams. We just don't have anyone that can strike fear into the defense. That hurts the running game and the overall offensive gameplan.

2. Without our starting tackles we can't make the most of what we are capable of in the passing game. With our starting tackles we at least have the time for Trent to get the ball to sub-standared receivers.

That's the differnece between having a talent at RB and not having a talent at WR. Talent will make it's own way.

3. Saunder's play calling is just plain stupid. He runs when the defense expects us to run and passes when the defense expects us to pass. On top of that, we run stupid plays that never work and we run them over and over again at critical times during the game (see reverse or dump pass to Dante). Don't design plays based on what you think you think players can do....design plays based on what they have proven they can do.

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PastorMikH Will KC ever be better? Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Land of Red Dirt & Necks Casino cash: $9925087	So What Exactly Is The Problem With The O??? I am just in complete disbelief in what I am seeing. We finally are showing signs of life on D and our O has fallen apart. For the last 3 years we have had one of the best offenses in the NFL. Today we can't even score a TD. Why is this? Are teams figuring our Offense out? Has Old Age rendered our O as average? Is Roaf's injury that big? Is letting Morton go hurting our passing game more than we thougth it would? Is Saunders trying to tank because he's upset about the HC situation next season? Have the players given up on DV? No Heart/Desire? Why??? Last edited by PastorMikH; 11-13-2005 at 03:25 PM..
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JBucc MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Casino cash: $10004952	O-line sucks, Green can't throw, LJ can run, but Al doesn't want to do what works, we have no WR's, D still gives up big plays and some other shit.
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milkman Dumbass! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Leading the Marty bashing Casino cash: $10029395	The Problem. Four words. Carl. Dick. Al. Gun. __________________
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11-13-2005, 03:28 PM	#9
Skip Towne Supporter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: T-Town Casino cash: $10004900	For a hundred years, when the D is rushing the passer hard, draws and screens always work. Did anyone see either a draw or screen today? Even one? Anybody?
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11-13-2005, 03:44 PM	#11
Coogs In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Northern Kansas Casino cash: $1474349	This one is all on AS IMO. The table was set in the first half. Kicking the crap out of them with LJ and a couple of play action passes. Then we get down in scoring range, and forget LJ and revert to straight drop back passes. Killed every single scoring opportunity. Even took LJ out once we got into scoring range.... more than one time too! And Mike Solari (sp).... I thought he was supposed to be a tremendous OL coach. And he is with Roaf, Waters, Weigmann, Shields, and Tait. (I think I could do pretty good with that bunch too) All the replacements and draft choices groomed under Solari have done squat. Overrated in my books.
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11-13-2005, 03:12 PM	#13
MichaelH Go Chiefs! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Gastonia, North Carolina Casino cash: $9302006	Instead of fixing the problems, the inept management keeps putting tape on the team hoping to get it to run another 1000 miles.
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11-13-2005, 03:12 PM	#14
suds79 MVP Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $10005036	Problems. # 1 - Offensive Tackle. Our Tackles are the worse in the league by far. # 2 - WR Core. Our WR is just as bad as it was in DV's 1st year. I mean it's really bad.
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11-13-2005, 03:24 PM	#15
penchief MVP Join Date: Feb 2003 Casino cash: $6325286	The way I perceive our problems, in order of severity. 1. Our receivers suck. Kennison makes plays on occasion but he would be a number three on most teams. We just don't have anyone that can strike fear into the defense. That hurts the running game and the overall offensive gameplan. 2. Without our starting tackles we can't make the most of what we are capable of in the passing game. With our starting tackles we at least have the time for Trent to get the ball to sub-standared receivers. That's the differnece between having a talent at RB and not having a talent at WR. Talent will make it's own way. 3. Saunder's play calling is just plain stupid. He runs when the defense expects us to run and passes when the defense expects us to pass. On top of that, we run stupid plays that never work and we run them over and over again at critical times during the game (see reverse or dump pass to Dante). Don't design plays based on what you think you think players can do....design plays based on what they have proven they can do.
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