Chiefs' offense: "one of the worst in the league, by nearly every measure"

[the Talking Can]

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2013/9...chiefs-offense

some numbers to chew on from arrowhead pride

The Chiefs are actually 12th in the league in PPG, at 23.7. But if you take away the 14 points the defense is directly responsible for, that number drops to 19 PPG, which would be tied for 23rd - with the Raiders. The Chiefs are relying on the defense to score points, which isn't good. Defensive scoring is random and shouldn't be part of the game plan. They didn't need Tamba Hali's pick-6 to beat the Jaguars, but they did need Eric Berry's against the Eagles.

They also are just not moving the ball; their 333 yds/gm is 21st in the league and their 4.9 yds/play ranks 25th. "Well Kyle," you may ask, " if the Chiefs offense is so bad, how are they undefeated this year?" That's an excellent question, thank you for asking. The answer is that the defense and special teams are much, much better than we thought.

The problem the Chiefs are having is getting to the Red Zone in the first place. They're 30th in yards per drive, with only Tampa Bay and Jacksonville behind them, and Cleveland directly in front of them (not good company to be in). This is a really, really bad offense. But here's the real kicker: the Chiefs' offense has the best starting field position in the NFL this year, and still can't score.

The Chiefs average 17 yards per drive better field position than their opponents (ok, ok, 16.95), the best mark in the NFL (2nd table). Only two other teams average more than 10 yards better starting field position than their opponents (New England and Chicago). The Chiefs' average starting line of scrimmage (LOS) is their own 36.97 yard line (best in the NFL), while their opponents average starting LOS is their own 20.02 yard line (also best in the NFL). What all of that means is the Chiefs's offense is handed consistently great starting field position and can't do anything with it, then they let the special teams pin opponents deep in their own territory. The defense bails out the offense by not letting opponents move the ball, giving the offense the ball back with great starting field position. Lather, rinse, repeat.

There's a nice breakdown of our defense against philly over there as well:
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/9/2...p-kelly-eagles

I have to reiterate and emphasize just how much the Chiefs played man to man -- like a ton of it. And they have the secondary to handle it, unlike most teams in the NFL. Specifically, they matched up Sean Smith on Cooper a lot on the outside. If this had been a prize fight, Cooper's corner would have thrown in the towel somewhere around the middle of the second quarter. Smith owned him right up until the end of the game when he started cramping up. Cooper just couldn't shake him, especially on those aforementioned deep routes Kelly had him running all game.

[the Talking Can]

what's amazing, is that there seems to be some transisitive property whereby the taste of Smith's semen makes one all-knowing about the KC Chiefs..

we have a passel of fanboi's who have watched exactly 3 full Chiefs games in their entire lives who now regularly lecture us on whats-what with the Chiefs..

sorry, but someone has to call bullshit, especially about made up crap like Bowe being lazy and untalented enough for Smith

i'm fine with a True Fan idiot like Marcellus believing it..we all know how stupid he is, but i draw the line in 49er losers

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

Wish I were home to do so. Not even sure how many games other than Philly I saved on the DVR.

... but no problem. Forget I mentioned it. No need to get this butthurt about a fairly harmless comment. I am not saying Bowe is a lazy POS. Just forget it. Too many Chiefs tears have been shed for one day already.

just admit you made it up and move on

[Titty Meat]

Bowes receptions this year are comparable to his 07, 08, 09 seasons after 3 games. Can we please quit overreacting?

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

It's amazing to me how some people will jump instantly to the defense of Alex Smith, who's been here a matter of months, yet just as quickly jump on a long-time incumbent pro bowl receiver.

So I guess it isn't so much about being a homer fan understandably jumping to the defense of all your Chiefs, just a selective homer fan who for some reason jumps only to the defense of certain Chiefs.

Like TTC always says; Bowe points to the back of his jersey and is "flashy" sometimes. Therefore he's a piece of shit.

A piece of shit that will lead this franchise in WR receptions, yardage, and TD's. All the while blocking like a lot of #1 don't like to do, and going right into the middle of a defense without fear.

[Beef Supreme]

In defense of Bowe. 3-0 baby. Same argument we're getting for Smith. Now shut the **** up.

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by Pablo

**** anyone who says Bowe looks like shit out there. He's trying despite not being targeted nearly as much as he should be.

... but no one is saying this. What is wrong with the level of reading comprehension on here? It would be humorous, if it were not so very sad.

[jspchief]

Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

So now, Bowe is being "run down" if anyone suggests he isn't giving 100% on every play? Do you even think when you type this? I have never seen so many people quick to exaggerate to extremes and get butthurt over their own terrible interpretations of words.

You're a douchebage troll. I think I may go on a crusade to get you banned from this place

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

hey look, the True Fan showed up...

i'd love to hear from you all about Bowe's laziness...

, thats not even an insult dude and I would rather be called a True Fan than be a fat ass idiot.

I didn't say he was lazy, Greg Cossell did. Learn to read.

I can tell you this, I watched the Eagles game again last night and he did a nice job blocking for Avery on those crossing routes.

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

just admit you made it up and move on

if you want a dishonest answer to appease the crying? then fine... I made it up.

feel better now, puddin'?

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

It's amazing to me how some people will jump instantly to the defense of Alex Smith, who's been here a matter of months, yet just as quickly jump all over a long-time incumbent pro bowl receiver.

So I guess it isn't so much about being a fan understandably jumping to the defense of all your Chiefs, just a selective fan who for some reason jumps only to the defense of certain Chiefs.

it was 'no excuses' on this board when we traded for Smith

the minute he shows up it's nothing but excuses...but that was inevitable

Chiefs fan refuse to expect things from their QBs, it's always someone else's fault...shit, people were blaming Charles in the eagles game thread

and now that Smith is here...McCluster sucks...notice how people gave up that argument...yeah

[JENKINSWINS]

Thank goodness for Donnie Avery! I see him getting 60+ catches and 1000+ yards.

KC is 3-0 and has barely tapped into this new playbook.

Go ALEX!

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by jspchief

You're a douchebage troll. I think I may go on a crusade to get you banned from this place

well, I would hope that you wouldn't. I really am not out to troll at all.

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

what's amazing, is that there seems to be some transisitive property whereby the taste of Smith's semen makes one all-knowing about the KC Chiefs..

we have a passel of fanboi's who have watched exactly 3 full Chiefs games in their entire lives who now regularly lecture us on whats-what with the Chiefs..

sorry, but someone has to call bullshit, especially about made up crap like Bowe being lazy and untalented enough for Smith

i'm fine with a True Fan idiot like Marcellus believing it..we all know how stupid he is, but i draw the line in 49er losers

No shit. You'd think Chiefs fans would love a guy that stuck it out and put up good efforts with guys like Huard, Croyle, Thigpen, Palko, Quinn, and Cassel at the healm.

But nah; he's just being slow and lazy this year because he got his money. Sounds about right.

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

, thats not even an insult dude and I would rather be called a True Fan than be a fat ass idiot.

I didn't say he was lazy, Greg Cossell did. Learn to read.

I can tell you this, I watched the Eagles game again last night and he did a nice job blocking for Avery on those crossing routes.

correct, the notion that Bowe is lazy is idiotic

the idea that he isn't good enough for Smith is idiotic

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Pablo

Bowe isn't fast. He never has been. He's a possession WR that will fight for the ball.

And who's very difficult to tackle once he has it.

Theoretically speaking, this offense should suit him well.