Antonio Cromartie......

Mecca · 02-22-2006, 04:08 PM

"During recent workouts, Cromartie ran a 4.41 40-time on grass and a 4.37 on a track. Even more impressive is that he posted a 43" jump in the vertical. If he can post numbers like this in Indianapolis, and if he knee gets the okay from the NFL doctors, you can bet is draft stock will go through the roof." Warchant.com 02/21/06

I'm beginning to think he's not even going to be available when we pick which irritates me.

htismaqe · 02-22-2006, 04:43 PM

If he runs like that in Indy, he'll go before we pick.

The good news is that he might push someone like Huff or Hali down to us.

BigChiefFan · 02-22-2006, 06:05 PM

We need the 1st round CBs to go BEFORE we pick. This is good news. Corner is NOT our most pressing need.

Mecca · 02-22-2006, 06:07 PM

I think he's a top 5 talent, excuse me for wanting him to fall to our pick. I try to think about where a draft is going to get us more than just the next season.

Kclee · 02-22-2006, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I think he's a top 5 talent, excuse me for wanting him to fall to our pick. I try to think about where a draft is going to get us more than just the next season.

I don't think you have to be excused for wanting the Chiefs to draft him. Warfield may very well be a cap casulty next year (if not this year). Surtain was injured off and on last year and we will have to replace McCleon and Washington this year. He just wouldn't fit an immediate need since as of now, Warfield and Surtain are the starters. But I'm warming up to the pick depending on FA.

htismaqe · 02-23-2006, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I think he's a top 5 talent, excuse me for wanting him to fall to our pick. I try to think about where a draft is going to get us more than just the next season.

There's no reason to apologize.

I agree he's a great talent.

I just don't agree that we should draft a CB.

BigChiefFan · 02-23-2006, 09:49 AM

He's very talented player and we could do worse than him at 20, but I think all this CB and safety talk is a ruse. Thinking we can do better than Cromartie at 20 is in no way an indictment on his play, but more on where the Chiefs woes lie. I'd love to have a another bad-ass cornerback on the roster, but until our D-line is addressed I'll continue to beat that drum rather loudly.

jspchief · 02-23-2006, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

If he runs like that in Indy, he'll go before we pick.

The good news is that he might push someone like Huff or Hali down to us.

That's the first thing I thought when I read the thread starter... Maybe this will drop Huff to us.

jspchief · 02-23-2006, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

He's very talented player and we could do worse than him at 20, but I think all this CB and safety talk is a ruse. Thinking we can do better than Cromartie at 20 is in no way an indictment on his play, but more on where the Chiefs woes lie. I'd love to have a another bad-ass cornerback on the roster, but until our D-line is addressed I'll continue to beat that drum rather loudly.

Regardless of whether we need D-line, there likely won't be a d-lineman worthy of the 20th pick. Unless you're suggesting we're going to trade down, I don't think we'll end up taking D-line in round 1.

RedThat · 02-23-2006, 10:20 AM

Michael Huff is going in the top 10. If he does drop, he won't fall to 20.

Michael Huff is the best DB in the country. And arguably, the top 10 rated prospects in this years draft. No way he falls to us.

BigChiefFan · 02-23-2006, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

Regardless of whether we need D-line, there likely won't be a d-lineman worthy of the 20th pick. Unless you're suggesting we're going to trade down, I don't think we'll end up taking D-line in round 1.

Yes, I've suggested trading down from day one, but that all is dependent on the combine. If Watson's (or whoever the Chiefs covet) stock goes through the roof and he's there at 20, that will dictate whether we pull the trigger or not. I have a feeling Watson will go in the top 25.

htismaqe · 02-23-2006, 11:25 AM

If Watson does as well at the combine as he did at the Senior Bowl, he may go in the top 15, whether it's warranted or not.

**Munson** · 02-23-2006, 01:45 PM

I don't think that Cromartie will be a first round pick because of his injury last year. Had he not gotten injured, he would have been a first round lock. If he is there in the second round, KC should take him.

I pray that we don't draft Watson. I have a feeling that he will be another Ryan Sims/Junior Siavii. Sure, Watson has size and potential, but he doesn't have motivation that this defense needs. We don't need another underachieving defensive tackle. I'd rather take Broderick Bunkley from Florida State. He's a little smaller than Watson, but he can get some penetration up the middle, which is exactly what the Chiefs need.

htismaqe · 02-23-2006, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Munson

I don't think that Cromartie will be a first round pick because of his injury last year. Had he not gotten injured, he would have been a first round lock. If he is there in the second round, KC should take him.

I pray that we don't draft Watson. I have a feeling that he will be another Ryan Sims/Junior Siavii. Sure, Watson has size and potential, but he doesn't have motivation that this defense needs. We don't need another underachieving defensive tackle. I'd rather take Broderick Bunkley from Florida State. He's a little smaller than Watson, but he can get some penetration up the middle, which is exactly what the Chiefs need.

All Cromartie has to do is run a sub-4.4 at the combine (which he's apparently already been doing) and run the other drills to show that his injury is healed.

If he does that, he'll shoot up into the middle of the 1st round or higher.

Chiefnj · 02-23-2006, 02:55 PM

Here's a potential day 2 DT to replace Siavii. Sounds like the anti-Siavii:

Steve Fifita, Utah (NT) (5' 11" 320 lbs.) Fifita is a tough and nasty player who gives a very good effort on every play. A classic NT built low to the ground, he is very strong and can overpower at the point of attack. He wins most one on one matchups, can occupy and occasionally split double teams and is very difficult to move off the LOS. Tenacious, with a warrior's mentality, Fifita's motor is always running. He possesses good quickness for a man his size and can penetrate and make plays in the backfield. He is a leader on the line. Fifita is limited as a passrusher and tends to wear down late in the game. He lacks great agility and lateral mobility and is not especially fast. With so many teams utilizing a 3-4 defense, Fifita could hear his name called a little earlier than expected. Fifth rounder.

02-22-2006, 04:08 PM
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2637050	Antonio Cromartie...... "During recent workouts, Cromartie ran a 4.41 40-time on grass and a 4.37 on a track. Even more impressive is that he posted a 43" jump in the vertical. If he can post numbers like this in Indianapolis, and if he knee gets the okay from the NFL doctors, you can bet is draft stock will go through the roof." Warchant.com 02/21/06 I'm beginning to think he's not even going to be available when we pick which irritates me.
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02-22-2006, 04:43 PM	#2
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $10269900	If he runs like that in Indy, he'll go before we pick. The good news is that he might push someone like Huff or Hali down to us.
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02-22-2006, 06:05 PM	#3
BigChiefFan MVP Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: In the Top 10 Casino cash: $9924205	We need the 1st round CBs to go BEFORE we pick. This is good news. Corner is NOT our most pressing need. __________________ A 35 year drought can make you thirsty.
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02-22-2006, 06:07 PM	#4
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2637050	I think he's a top 5 talent, excuse me for wanting him to fall to our pick. I try to think about where a draft is going to get us more than just the next season.
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02-23-2006, 09:49 AM	#7
BigChiefFan MVP Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: In the Top 10 Casino cash: $9924205	He's very talented player and we could do worse than him at 20, but I think all this CB and safety talk is a ruse. Thinking we can do better than Cromartie at 20 is in no way an indictment on his play, but more on where the Chiefs woes lie. I'd love to have a another bad-ass cornerback on the roster, but until our D-line is addressed I'll continue to beat that drum rather loudly. __________________ A 35 year drought can make you thirsty.
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02-23-2006, 10:20 AM	#10
RedThat Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Earth Casino cash: $10004900	Michael Huff is going in the top 10. If he does drop, he won't fall to 20. Michael Huff is the best DB in the country. And arguably, the top 10 rated prospects in this years draft. No way he falls to us.
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02-23-2006, 11:25 AM	#12
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $10269900	If Watson does as well at the combine as he did at the Senior Bowl, he may go in the top 15, whether it's warranted or not.
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02-23-2006, 01:45 PM	#13
Munson Roy E. Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Olathe, KS Casino cash: $11979646	I don't think that Cromartie will be a first round pick because of his injury last year. Had he not gotten injured, he would have been a first round lock. If he is there in the second round, KC should take him. I pray that we don't draft Watson. I have a feeling that he will be another Ryan Sims/Junior Siavii. Sure, Watson has size and potential, but he doesn't have motivation that this defense needs. We don't need another underachieving defensive tackle. I'd rather take Broderick Bunkley from Florida State. He's a little smaller than Watson, but he can get some penetration up the middle, which is exactly what the Chiefs need.
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02-23-2006, 02:55 PM	#15
Chiefnj MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Willis, Harris and Davis. Casino cash: $10004900	Here's a potential day 2 DT to replace Siavii. Sounds like the anti-Siavii: Steve Fifita, Utah (NT) (5' 11" 320 lbs.) Fifita is a tough and nasty player who gives a very good effort on every play. A classic NT built low to the ground, he is very strong and can overpower at the point of attack. He wins most one on one matchups, can occupy and occasionally split double teams and is very difficult to move off the LOS. Tenacious, with a warrior's mentality, Fifita's motor is always running. He possesses good quickness for a man his size and can penetrate and make plays in the backfield. He is a leader on the line. Fifita is limited as a passrusher and tends to wear down late in the game. He lacks great agility and lateral mobility and is not especially fast. With so many teams utilizing a 3-4 defense, Fifita could hear his name called a little earlier than expected. Fifth rounder. __________________ "I always tell (the assistant coaches), 'Make it simple, 'cause I'm stupid,'" Edwards said. "This ain't computer football." Herm Edwards, 3-20-07 Q: Herm, back on December 25th you were asked if Trent Green was your starter going into next season and you said, ‘yeah, why wouldn’t he be?’ Have you changed your mind on that? EDWARDS: No, I have not.” (1-11-07)
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