Royals (New) 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository - Page 8

duncan_idaho · 08-15-2013, 08:13 AM

New thread, this time with more burst.

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

mr. tegu · 08-15-2013, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by CJizzles

Sometimes you wonder if Yost realizes this team is in the hunt for a WC spot.

One game at a time translates to no sense of urgency.

SPATCH · 08-15-2013, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru

I think I heard this morning the Royals are 0-6 with Getzie leading off.

That just means we're due then, guys.

DeepSouth · 08-15-2013, 02:32 PM

At least we can't complain about Elliot Johnson being in the lineup.

penbrook · 08-15-2013, 02:35 PM

This should be fun. We have only scored 2 runs EVER against tonight's starter in Anibal Sanchez.

**ptlyon** · 08-15-2013, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by penbook

This should be fun. We have only scored 2 runs EVER against tonight's starter in Anibal Sanchez.

siberian khatru · 08-15-2013, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by the_spatula

That just means we're due then, guys.

We should've held on to Johnson. He's more due than anyone in MLB.

**RockChalk** · 08-15-2013, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by penbook

This should be fun. We have only scored 2 runs EVER against tonight's starter in Anibal Sanchez.

Well MOAR POWER will get the most PA's of any player tonight, so I look for us to blow that 2-run mark away

siberian khatru · 08-15-2013, 02:40 PM

Boy, it didn't take long for the old cynicism to return, did it?

**RockChalk** · 08-15-2013, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru

Boy, it didn't take long for the old cynicism to return, did it?

BlackHelicopters · 08-15-2013, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by the_spatula

That just means we're due then, guys.

BlackHelicopters · 08-15-2013, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru

Boy, it didn't take long for the old cynicism to return, did it?

Two no show games against the MARLINS will do that to a fan base.

topher79 · 08-15-2013, 02:48 PM

About to the point where I'd say eff it and put Gordon at 3rd just to get two of Getz/Johnson/Carroll/Bonafacio out of the lineup.

OmahaChief · 08-15-2013, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RockChalk

Getz is leading off tonight's game

#Royals vs RHP Sanchez: Getz 4 Hosmer 3 Butler DH Gordon 7 Perez 2 Maxwell 9 Bonifacio 5 Escobar 6 Dyson 8 Guthrie 1
— Joel Goldberg (@goldbergkc) August 15, 2013

I'm sure Ned would tell you about the 3 walks Getz took...so he is seeing the ball well and getting quality abs. Effin terrible that he is leading off. Better than Ofer Elliott being in the lineup though.

**gblowfish** · 08-15-2013, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru

We should've held on to Johnson.

I've been holding my Johnson all week....hasn't helped much.

Cephalic Trauma · 08-15-2013, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop

Two no show games against the MARLINS will do that to a fan base.

+leading Getz off two straight games despite an anemic offense.

I just wish, for once, that a manager of the kansas city royals would consider the numbers when making a lineup. It's the only objective way of looking at it.

08-15-2013, 08:13 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1770308	(New) 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository New thread, this time with more burst. Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?
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