Water fasting + keto diet thread...

[scho63]

Here you go you short cut weight loss specialists!

[Bearcat]

Tried keto for a few months last year and really liked it... counted calories and took about a 500 calorie deficit/day and stayed around 50 carbs/day, not counting fiber. No cravings and I worked out 5-6 days/week mostly to not lose any muscle, and didn't have any issues with energy level. As it seems like 95% of my body fat is in my gut, the goal was to lose ~10 pounds and I lost about 15, which is exactly what some online keto calculator told me.

I moved onto staying away from obviously unneeded carbs or stuff that's nothing more than filler to me... such as not eating Cliff bars for breakfast or pasta/rice (outside of the occasional restaurant visit).

Fasting and the whole "flushing toxins" just seems like total bullshit, but I've never cared enough to see if there's any real evidence that any of it works (and I've never seen any evidence presented by those who think it works).

[notorious]

I am 6’3, and my weight stays between 210-215. I install and refinish wood floors, so I am in fairly good shape except for my proud gut. In fact, some very in shape people have tried to work for me, but can’t maintain.

Anyway, I have tried Keto to lose the gut. Zero energy, bad moods (I am a normally happy guy), a lot more sleep, and my usually raging libido has disappeared. Blood sugar has gone from mid/upper 90s to 105, but now it’s always above 120.

What the ****?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by notorious

I am 6’3, and my weight stays between 210-215. I install and refinish wood floors, so I am in fairly good shape except for my proud gut. In fact, some very in shape people have tried to work for me, but can’t maintain.

Anyway, I have tried Keto to lose the gut. Zero energy, bad moods (I am a normally happy guy), a lot more sleep, and my usually raging libido has disappeared. Blood sugar has gone from mid/upper 90s to 105, but now it’s always above 120.

What the ****?

It's a band-aid at best. Meta-analyses of low-carb diets show that the effect on A1C lowering is transient and disappears after one year compared to a higher carbohydrate diet, in part due to issues with adherence. Low and high carb diets of the same calorie level ended up with patients having the same BMI, waist circumference, and LDL levels.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

It's a band-aid at best. Meta-analyses of low-carb diets show that the effect on A1C lowering is transient and disappears after one year compared to a higher carbohydrate diet, in part due to issues with adherence. Low and high carb diets of the same calorie level ended up with patients having the same BMI, waist circumference, and LDL levels.

Thanks Hamas, I have done high protein, count calories and fat diet without worrying about counting carbs in the past. It works great for me.

My better half decided to do low carb, and I decided to support her by doing it, too.

There is a vast energy requirement difference between 1 hour a day workout warriors and me.

I don’t see how anyone that isn’t a desk jockey survives Keto.

[PmCakes]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

It's a band-aid at best. Meta-analyses of low-carb diets show that the effect on A1C lowering is transient and disappears after one year compared to a higher carbohydrate diet, in part due to issues with adherence. Low and high carb diets of the same calorie level ended up with patients having the same BMI, waist circumference, and LDL levels.

Can I get this in English?

[notorious]

Originally Posted by PmCakes

Can I get this in English?

Calories consumed, no matter what carb level, controls weight long term.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

It's a band-aid at best. Meta-analyses of low-carb diets show that the effect on A1C lowering is transient and disappears after one year compared to a higher carbohydrate diet, in part due to issues with adherence.

That doesn't disprove the diet - it proves people have no self-discipline. Probably why we're all over weight to begin with.

We're seasonal creatures. We're not meant to binge on high carb/high fruit/high sugar diets year round. You look at where most humans evolved there are seasons, foods come in and out of season, and people actually vary their diets with the seasons. No fruit in winter - more protein and fats eaten in winter. Don't need a study to realize that variety in your diet is a good thing.

I also think we evolved eating high sugar and carb foods in late summer and fall as they naturally ripen or mature. We build fat that carries us through the winter when less food is available. You take that creature and feed it macaroni, fruit, and cereal year round and it's going to gain weight year round.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

I really gotta remember to clear my browser history

[Dunit35]

I pretty much stay around 50-100 carbs a day for the last year and a half. Some days we might eat out and I go way overboard. My weight has stayed around 175 for that time. I usually run 3-4 days a week 3-5 miles at a time.

I did go to France last week and ate carbs all day. I must have shit 2-3 times a day. My body was not use to all those carbs and I gained four pounds.

[scho63]

I'm on my 15th day of a water only fast. I have also had some decaf coffee with low fat half and half plus some Bai water that has only 10 calories per bottle.

I'm down 34.6 pounds in 8-9 weeks. My goal is to end 2023 down 100-135 pounds total.

The last 2 1/2 years prior to me quitting Amazon in June were horrible for my health.

I can't believe all the aches and pains along with my acid reflux are gone. My energy level has increased from a 2 to 7.

My overall motivation is way up for everything.

[Rasputin]

I did keto for a while. Had the best solid shits of my life and little to no wiping necessary.

[markdis]

Originally Posted by Rasputin

I did keto for a while. Had the best solid shits of my life and little to no wiping necessary.

Did you use those keto strips? Are those helpful?
Here is a great article about healthy snacks for fasting https://betterme.world/articles/inte...asting-snacks/, but of course who are just on diet should be helpful as well. Many people put on extra weight just by snacking constantly unhealthy things and not realizing that they are doing something wrong.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by scho63

Best diet plan:

1. Find out your BMR
2. Know your daily and weekly calories intake limit
3. Count EVERY calorie you eat and food you like to shave off 10-15% to 25% MAX calories off your daily NUETRAL number so you will lose weight just by eating BETTER
4. Try eating smaller portions MORE often, 6 times a day
5. Exercise 3-4 days a week to create an even greater calorie deficit and boost your metabolism.

YOU WILL LOSE WEIGHT!!! No need for all these bullshit magic diets and protein shakes and fasting and goofy shit to separate you and your money.

This will be a LIFESTYLE change that you can maintain the rest of your life. There is NO NEED to deprive yourself of things like cake or pizza or beer or any other foods. You just need to understand that if you eat a pint of Haagen-Dazs at 1,200 calories or eat dinner at the calorie busting Cheesecake Factory, you have used up a huge amount of your daily calories.

I've lost 52 pounds since March 25th with nothing crazy but following this simple strategy.

Originally Posted by scho63

Here you go you short cut weight loss specialists!

Originally Posted by scho63

I'm on my 15th day of a water only fast. I have also had some decaf coffee with low fat half and half plus some Bai water that has only 10 calories per bottle.

I'm down 34.6 pounds in 8-9 weeks. My goal is to end 2023 down 100-135 pounds total.

The last 2 1/2 years prior to me quitting Amazon in June were horrible for my health.

I can't believe all the aches and pains along with my acid reflux are gone. My energy level has increased from a 2 to 7.

My overall motivation is way up for everything.

Congratulations, but what made you change your mind?

[scho63]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Congratulations, but what made you change your mind?

Needed to jump start my weight loss to have enough energy to get moving again. Enough studies confirm the safety of it.

I'm going to break my fast in the next 24-48 hours and then stay on a low calorie diet of 1,250 - 1,500 calories to continue losing weight and add exercise to burn more as well.

You can't exercise when water fasting, too dangerous.

This morning I'm down 38.0 pounds