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Deberg_1990 · 10-06-2004, 04:29 PM

I figured I would start a thread for this and see what happens....there seemed to be quite a few viewers on the board for this show the past few weeks.....I like the direction the show is taking so far......episode 3 tonight at 7 central on ABC....

Mr. Plow · 02-01-2009, 12:06 AM

I have my theories on quite a bit. But it's trapped in my head. I can't put it down in words.

**Buck** · 02-05-2009, 04:38 PM

Ok so 2 things are pretty much confirmed.

Charlotte and Miles have spent a pretty decent amount of time on the island. We can tell from the nosebleeds. Juliet has too, but we already knew that.

I think this means Dr. Chang's baby is Miles.

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-05-2009, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckinKaeding

Ok so 2 things are pretty much confirmed.

Charlotte and Miles have spent a pretty decent amount of time on the island. We can tell from the nosebleeds. Juliet has too, but we already knew that.

I think this means Dr. Chang's baby is Miles.

I respectfully disagree.

The nosebleeds are not an indicator of time spent on the island. The nosebleeds indicate that those particular people have serious problems with the after-effects of time-travel.

Apparently, it affects some people (driving them insane and finally to death) but it doesn't affect others. Hence Daniel's experiments. He doesn't know why it affects some but not others.

The only things confirmed last night are that Jin was inside the "bubble" when the time-shift occurred, so he's not dead, though he is trapped far in the past. We can also safely Danielle Rousseau has been on the island for far, far longer than 17 years.

patteeu · 02-05-2009, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

We can also safely Danielle Rousseau has been on the island for far, far longer than 17 years.

Why this? Why can't we just assume that Jin was rescued at a point in time 17 years ago?

**Buck** · 02-05-2009, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I respectfully disagree.

The nosebleeds are not an indicator of time spent on the island. The nosebleeds indicate that those particular people have serious problems with the after-effects of time-travel.

Apparently, it affects some people (driving them insane and finally to death) but it doesn't affect others. Hence Daniel's experiments. He doesn't know why it affects some but not others.

The only things confirmed last night are that Jin was inside the "bubble" when the time-shift occurred, so he's not dead, though he is trapped far in the past. We can also safely Danielle Rousseau has been on the island for far, far longer than 17 years.

Yeah that was cool to see Jin alive.

I believe Faraday said that he thinks it has to do with how long those people have been on the island.

If you remember in "The Constant", both Desmond and Minkowski had "time travelled" to another time in their head (or whatever happened). Charlotte didn't say anything about her mind going anywhere.

Heres the quote from last night

MILES: Hey. (Sniffles) I just got a nosebleed.

FARADAY: What? When?

MILES: Let's just not freak out the others, okay? Just tell me... why--why her? Why me?

FARADAY: I don't know. Uh, I think it might have something to do with duration of exposure. You know, the amount of time you've spent on the island.

MILES: Doesn't make any sense. Those yahoos have been here for months. I've never been here before two weeks ago.

FARADAY: Are you sure about that?

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-05-2009, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

Why this? Why can't we just assume that Jin was rescued at a point in time 17 years ago?

Rousseau last night was shown as a very, very young girl. She appeared no more than 20 years old. The Rousseau of 2004 was 49.

Something doesn't add up.

Red Brooklyn · 02-05-2009, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I respectfully disagree.

The nosebleeds are not an indicator of time spent on the island. The nosebleeds indicate that those particular people have serious problems with the after-effects of time-travel.

Apparently, it affects some people (driving them insane and finally to death) but it doesn't affect others. Hence Daniel's experiments. He doesn't know why it affects some but not others.

The only things confirmed last night are that Jin was inside the "bubble" when the time-shift occurred, so he's not dead, though he is trapped far in the past. We can also safely Danielle Rousseau has been on the island for far, far longer than 17 years.

Pardon me, but I respectfully have to disagree.

While I do agree that the nosebleeds are not necessarily an indication of "time spent on the island", I disagree with the rest of your theory. The nosebleeds are an indication of contact with the island. Everyone's noses will start bleeding eventually. (Except perhaps Faraday's because of the whole constant thing.) Charlotte gets a nosebleed first because she was the first (of our time traveling group) to have contact with the island. Miles was the second, that is why he gets a nosebleed next. Then Juliette and so on. I think they are directly connected. Faraday theorizes the same.

Jin was in the "bubble" but I don't believe he's "trapped" anywhere. I believe he's skipping through time just like the rest of our losties. When the next flash happens he'll shift in time with the others.

Finally, there is absolutely no reason I can see to suggest that Rousseau has been on the island longer than 16 years. I can't imagine what makes you state differently.

Red Brooklyn · 02-05-2009, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Rousseau last night was shown as a very, very young girl. She appeared no more than 20 years old. The Rousseau of 2004 was 49.

Something doesn't add up.

how do you know she was 49?

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-05-2009, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Brooklyn

how do you know she was 49?

IMDB. She would have been 49 in 2004.

The girl last night was no older than 20 and she certainly wasn't 32 years old.

Adept Havelock · 02-05-2009, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Rousseau last night was shown as a very, very young girl. She appeared no more than 20 years old. The Rousseau of 2004 was 49.

Something doesn't add up.

I'd guess that rough living in the jungle for a decade and a half might make you look older than you actually are.

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-05-2009, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Brooklyn

Pardon me, but I respectfully have to disagree.

While I do agree that the nosebleeds are not necessarily an indication of "time spent on the island", I disagree with the rest of your theory. The nosebleeds are an indication of contact with the island. Everyone's noses will start bleeding eventually. (Except perhaps Faraday's because of the whole constant thing.) Charlotte gets a nosebleed first because she was the first (of our time traveling group) to have contact with the island. Miles was the second, that is why he gets a nosebleed next. Then Juliette and so on. I think they are directly connected. Faraday theorizes the same.

I don't see it that way.

Faraday knew somehow that nosebleeds were an affect of time travel. Juliet has been on the island for quite some time yet her nose didn't bleed until after they'd been shifted through time. Daniel's experiments with rats left them brain damaged and we saw the affects of his experiments on his former girlfriend.

I don't think it has anything to do with the island and everything to do with time-travel.

**007** · 02-05-2009, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

IMDB. She would have been 49 in 2004.

The girl last night was no older than 20 and she certainly wasn't 32 years old.

Wasn't her daughter only 17 though?

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-05-2009, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Adept Havelock

I'd guess that rough living in the jungle for a decade and a half might make you look older than you actually are.

I could be completely wrong but I think that if the producers wanted us to believe that Rousseau had been on the island for only 17 years, they would have hired an actress more age appropriate (say 30-35).

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-05-2009, 05:43 PM

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Wasn't her daughter only 17 though?

Yes.

My only point is that Rousseau didn't actually know how long she'd been on the island.

Again, I could be completely wrong but I'd be surprised if the producers hired a girl who's age wouldn't jive with the rest of the story without a reason.

**007** · 02-05-2009, 05:46 PM

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Yes.

My only point is that Rousseau didn't actually know how long she'd been on the island.

Again, I could be completely wrong but I'd be surprised if the producers hired a girl who's age wouldn't jive with the rest of the story for a reason.

completely agree on that. There is a reason they are doing this. I figured she would at least have to be 32 last night for everything to somewhat jive but she certainly only looked around 20-23.

Makes me wonder if she was pregnant more than once on the island. Of course, that doesn't jive either since nobody can get pregnant once on the island.

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02-05-2009, 04:38 PM	#3422
Buck Take a Chill Pill Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: South Carolina Casino cash: $8319900	Ok so 2 things are pretty much confirmed. Charlotte and Miles have spent a pretty decent amount of time on the island. We can tell from the nosebleeds. Juliet has too, but we already knew that. I think this means Dr. Chang's baby is Miles.
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