Chiefs Albert/Joeckel perspective - Page 21

**cdcox** · 04-18-2013, 11:01 PM

How would you feel if the Chiefs had the #2 overall pick and packaged it and Albert for Joeckel? Because that's what the Chiefs are on the brink of doing.

#1 pick = 3000 points
#54 pick = 360 points

difference is 2640 points

#2 pick is worth 2600 points

Chiefs are going to invest 3000 - 360 = 2640 points to replace Albert with Joeckel. It could be a good deal for the Chiefs if 1) Albert is out of the league in two years, 2) Jockel is a HOFer and 3) the alternatives (like Geno) don't have very good careers.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-19-2013, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre

SNR, the fight has been fought. It is hopeless to argue with people who lack the intestinal fortitude to admit when they are wrong.

And some people claim that I'm conceited.

Jesus ****, child.

**BossChief** · 04-19-2013, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

And do you understand the depth of such a revelation?

That they have done their research and have decided those are the top 4 guys on their board?

**Mav** · 04-19-2013, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Get the **** out of here with that shit and go kill yourself with an aids tree.

way to put some thought into it douchebag. My thought process is exactly along the lines of the chiefs. Its not necessarily my point of view, but it is what is happening. You really should take that dildo out of your ass. You are far too uptight slut bag.

**RealSNR** · 04-19-2013, 10:13 PM

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And some people claim that I'm conceited.

Jesus ****, child.

Did you read what RunKC was saying? It was pure gibberish.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 04-19-2013, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It was back in February. Off the top of my head Texas, A&M and a few others.

Who ****ing cares? Don't act like I'M the guy that's made the decision to pass on him.

Then quit trying to legitimize the FAIL of Dorseid. There was no justifying this trade the day it happened, and guess the **** what? There STILL isn't today. Pretty ****ing simple.
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**DaneMcCloud** · 04-19-2013, 10:15 PM

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That they have done their research and have decided those are the top 4 guys on their board?

It's that, unlike what's been suggested around here for months on end, they are actively looking to draft and develop a QB and Alex Smith is definitely not their long term solution.

I keep reading all this "Gloom and Doom" about how Alex Smith is going to be the starter for "Five years!" and blah, blah, blah. I've never believed it for a second.

Whether they take Geno or not, they're not handing Alex Smith the keys to the car for five years. They're planning to draft and develop a QB, whether it's round one or round two or round three.

Everyone should exhale and relax now.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-19-2013, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie

Then quit trying to legitimize the FAIL of Dorseid. There was no justifying this trade the day it happened, and guess the **** what? There STILL isn't today. Pretty ****ing simple.
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How did I legitimize it? By saying that Smith was the best QB available this offseason?

What the **** is wrong with you? (I mean, besides the obvious).

**Mav** · 04-19-2013, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It's that, unlike what's been suggested around here for months on end, they are actively looking to draft and develop a QB and Alex Smith is definitely not their long term solution.

I keep reading all this "Gloom and Doom" about how Alex Smith is going to be the starter for "Five years!" and blah, blah, blah. I've never believed it for a second.

Whether they take Geno or not, they're not handing Alex Smith the keys to the car for five years. They're planning to draft and develop a QB, whether it's round one or round two or round three.

Everyone should exhale and relax now.

Yeah, people act like now that the chiefs have alex smith, they will never get another qb ever. and thats just stupid. The year they gave Mike Vick 100 mil they drafted Foles. People are just mad cause hes not a first rounder....

**Mav** · 04-19-2013, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane

Alex Smith sucks dog shit. He's ****ing awful, there is no other explanation.

Yeah, your reply shows who the "fool" is dick eater.....

Alex Smith is an upgrade to any qb you have had since Trent Green. Hes not as good as trent, but hes much better than any other option this offseason, and will be more valuable to the chiefs this year, than the 34th pick. Soooooo Get ****ed sally sensitive.

**BossChief** · 04-19-2013, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It's that, unlike what's been suggested around here for months on end, they are actively looking to draft and develop a QB and Alex Smith is definitely not their long term solution.

I keep reading all this "Gloom and Doom" about how Alex Smith is going to be the starter for "Five years!" and blah, blah, blah. I've never believed it for a second.

Whether they take Geno or not, they're not handing Alex Smith the keys to the car for five years. They're planning to draft and develop a QB, whether it's round one or round two or round three.

Everyone should exhale and relax now.

Dude, you have kept me on blast for MONTHS for saying there is a chance they gave up so much for Alex was for the "win right away" acquisition and as a hedging of a bet if they do take Geno...as well as a guy that handled a similar transition over the last two years perfectly.

I've even said I didn't think Geno could start right away (right after the mooch interview first aired) and will take time to learn a pro offense...but that he is smart enough and has the work ethic needed to do so.

I've pointed out the contract details in Daniels deal and how it leaves the door open for him to take over as the starter early in year 2. Chase has a clause that voids the rest of his deal if he tops 2000 passing yards. Think about that...it doesn't have any effect in the third year because it voids future years. It's a black and white proof that they aren't cemented to Alex Smith past the first year.

I've brought that stuff up for months and you called me everything in the book including delusional.

Oh well.

It's a shame that we probably won't draft him, but him making it this far in the process is kinda exciting.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 04-19-2013, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Am I taking ****ing crazy pills here? I'm not the only one who sees how big of a flaming dumbass RunKC is being right now, am I?

What the **** do you mean "right now"? It's every goddamned post, every mother****ing DAY with that dipshit. I bet that ****nut liked Carl's bullshit too.
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**DaneMcCloud** · 04-19-2013, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Did you read what RunKC was saying? It was pure gibberish.

Sorry Mang, didn't read it.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-19-2013, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Oh well.

It's a shame that we probably won't draft him, but him making it this far in the process is kinda exciting.

You missed my point.

There have been a shit ton of people that are completely convinced that Dorsey and Reid have hitched their wagon to Smith for years on end. That is simply untrue.

Look, I've said it dozens of times and I'll say it again: If the Chiefs choose Geno Smith, great! Just because I wouldn't choose him doesn't mean that they shouldn't. But I also happen to believe that it's far more realistic that they recoup a second rounder in a trade and select a developmental QB on Day Two or Day Three.

If that occurs, and I believe it will, everyone should just chill out and stop with the "Chiefs will NEVER draft and develop a QB" mantra.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 04-19-2013, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It's that, unlike what's been suggested around here for months on end, they are actively looking to draft and develop a QB and Alex Smith is definitely not their long term solution.

I keep reading all this "Gloom and Doom" about how Alex Smith is going to be the starter for "Five years!" and blah, blah, blah. I've never believed it for a second.

Whether they take Geno or not, they're not handing Alex Smith the keys to the car for five years. They're planning to draft and develop a QB, whether it's round one or round two or round three.

Everyone should exhale and relax now.

Uh, no. We're going to "get Alex to the Hall of Fame" because he's a goddamned Mormon too, and our little dick(which we can't see over our fat ****ing gut)is soooooo hard for him! Nom, nom, nom...
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**DaneMcCloud** · 04-19-2013, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie

Uh, no. We're going to "get Alex to the Hall of Fame" because he's a goddamned Mormon too, and our little dick(which we can't see over our fat ****ing gut)is soooooo hard for him! Nom, nom, nom...
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You're an odd dude, Dude.

04-18-2013, 11:01 PM
cdcox www.nfl-forecast.com Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $2351769	Albert/Joeckel perspective How would you feel if the Chiefs had the #2 overall pick and packaged it and Albert for Joeckel? Because that's what the Chiefs are on the brink of doing. #1 pick = 3000 points #54 pick = 360 points difference is 2640 points #2 pick is worth 2600 points Chiefs are going to invest 3000 - 360 = 2640 points to replace Albert with Joeckel. It could be a good deal for the Chiefs if 1) Albert is out of the league in two years, 2) Jockel is a HOFer and 3) the alternatives (like Geno) don't have very good careers.
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