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Old 03-31-2011, 09:32 AM  
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**** OFFICIAL 2011-2012 Kansas Basketball Repository Thread ****
2011-12 Kansas Men’s Basketball (29-6,17-3)
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Old 01-05-2012, 07:11 AM   #1561
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Apples and Oranges. There are 3 times as many bball games per team than there are football games a year.
And there are six times as many seats in a football stadium as there are in a basketball arena.
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Old 01-05-2012, 07:31 AM   #1562
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Good win.

I didn't get a chance to watch the game. Are you guys as good as you look on the boxscore? Did KSU play a poor game? All of the above?
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Old 01-05-2012, 08:06 AM   #1563
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Good win.

I didn't get a chance to watch the game. Are you guys as good as you look on the boxscore? Did KSU play a poor game? All of the above?
KSU played a poor game. But KU also stepped up. KSU didn't have the 3 ball going like they normally do. They played their normal sloppy ball but didn't get many hustle plays into easy buckets.

The biggest stat of the game is KU got off their ass and got some rebounds. Normally when KU plays KState KU gives up a bunch of infinitely frustrating offensive rebounds. KU played a Pretty ugly game but managed to get on the glass and get the hustle plays that usually go to KState.

So really it is a little of both. It will be interesting to see how KState fairs against MU and Baylor in Bramledge.
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Old 01-05-2012, 08:15 AM   #1564
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Good win.

I didn't get a chance to watch the game. Are you guys as good as you look on the boxscore? Did KSU play a poor game? All of the above?
KU this year is about defense and rebounding. Offensively, we have some scorers, but not like in recent years. Also, turnovers are problem for KU this year.

Don't have the quality depth that we're used to, though. Still, KU is a very good team this year. Don't let the 3 losses fool you. 2 of those were to top 5 teams. Davidson is a good program but that was one KU should not have lost.
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Robinson had a few "pick your jaw up off the floor" moments. Dude is a man among boys.
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Old 01-05-2012, 08:27 AM   #1567
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KSU just kept forcing their way inside and took awkard shots with Robinson and Withey in their faces early. To put it mildly, it didn't work.

When both of KU's big men were on the court together, KSU couldn't do anything. Their bigs weren't good enough to do work in the post, and their guards weren't quick enough to open things up with penetration.

Robinson is dominant when he wants to be, but he tends to disappear for long stretches. He got lazy on offense and then into a bit of foul trouble, and KSU made a big run.

They got to within three before Teahen hit a couple of threes. Then the guy guarding Robinson picked up a foul and had to come out. Robinson got back into his groove, and it was all over.
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Old 01-05-2012, 08:27 AM   #1568
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KU this year is about defense and rebounding. Offensively, we have some scorers, but not like in recent years. Also, Tyshons turnovers are problem for KU this year.

Don't have the quality depth that we're used to, though. Still, KU is a very good team this year. Don't let the 3 losses fool you. 2 of those were to top 5 teams. Davidson is a good program but that was one KU should not have lost.
It seems his is counting for at least 50% of the TO's in games this year... His brain, If he has one, is never fully engaged into the game...

He is the most careless player with the ball in years for KU... I cant think of a Sr that was more disconnected during the game than this guy...
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It seems his is counting for at least 50% of the TO's in games this year... His brain, If he has one, is never fully engaged into the game...

He is the most careless player with the ball in years for KU... I cant think of a Sr that was more disconnected during the game than this guy...
You're right in that TT is responsible for a lot of the TOs. But I doubt its anywhere near as high as 50%. And I don't think its because he is disconnected or anything like that. TT plays his butt off most of the time. The last time I can remember him truly dogging it was at KSU last year. And I was one of his biggest critics during that game. I just don't think he has the skills to be a true PG. Yes, I would like to see him cut those down. But at least a lot of his are from trying to make plays and not necessarily from being lazy.
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You're right in that TT is responsible for a lot of the TOs. But I doubt its anywhere near as high as 50%. And I don't think its because he is disconnected or anything like that. TT plays his butt off most of the time. The last time I can remember him truly dogging it was at KSU last year. And I was one of his biggest critics during that game. I just don't think he has the skills to be a true PG. Yes, I would like to see him cut those down. But at least a lot of his are from trying to make plays and not necessarily from being lazy.
TT is so damn frustrating. He turns the ball over way too much. A couple of them last night were pretty boneheaded.

But the other side is that he gets in the lane whenever he wants. It doesn't matter who is guarding him. He can get by anyone. And his speed is other worldly.

KUs problem is that he is the ONLY guy getting into the lane. Johnson wants to be a shooter, but did take his man off the bounce a couple times last game. Releford will beat his man periodically, but usually there is a pretty good opening or the guy overplays a pass or something. Releford isn't beating many guys off a cross over or a first step. Tharp tries to get to the bucket, but the game is still so much faster than he is, he isn't very reliable.

Pay attention next game. TT is the only guy going to the bucket. Sometimes he turns it over. Sometimes he chucks up a bad shot, but a lot of times, that's an OREB for us. A lot of times he makes a nice pass or a rediculous shot.

As a fan of fundamentals, it kills me to watch TT turn it over, but at this point, KU is uber boned without him.
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TT is so damn frustrating. He turns the ball over way too much. A couple of them last night were pretty boneheaded.

But the other side is that he gets in the lane whenever he wants. It doesn't matter who is guarding him. He can get by anyone. And his speed is other worldly.

KUs problem is that he is the ONLY guy getting into the lane. Johnson wants to be a shooter, but did take his man off the bounce a couple times last game. Releford will beat his man periodically, but usually there is a pretty good opening or the guy overplays a pass or something. Releford isn't beating many guys off a cross over or a first step. Tharp tries to get to the bucket, but the game is still so much faster than he is, he isn't very reliable.

Pay attention next game. TT is the only guy going to the bucket. Sometimes he turns it over. Sometimes he chucks up a bad shot, but a lot of times, that's an OREB for us. A lot of times he makes a nice pass or a rediculous shot.

As a fan of fundamentals, it kills me to watch TT turn it over, but at this point, KU is uber boned without him.
Yeah, that's what I'm always telling my son when we're watching KU games. For as annoying as TT's TOs can be, he is damn near impossible to stop penetrating. He has a lot of good qualities. If he could just cut the bonehead TOs way down, I think most KU fans would absolutely love him.
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Losing those 2 guys to academic problems are really hurting this depth.

McLemore would have been an upgrade over what Releford does.

Self is coaching pretty solid this year.
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