Chiefs I'd still say the race for Andrew Luck is still on. - Page 4

Direckshun · 09-26-2011, 09:45 AM

First off, the Chiefs are still a ****ing bad team, thanks to injury, Matt Cassel, and piss poor coaching/play calling.

Those blowouts we had to start the season were perfect indications of it.

A close game with San Diego was predictable if you follow spot betting for professional football:

1. The Chargers just lost their Super Bowl of September against the Patriots.
2. The law of averages favors the Chiefs, two times over.
3. The emotional advantage is totally on KC’s side.
4. Todd Haley’s Chiefs compete after tough road losses.
5. Teams that aren’t total disaster cases like the Raiders tend to tense up and play up and beyond their best when they lose their franchise player(s).
6. The Chiefs aren’t as bad as everybody (including themselves) are making them out to be.

These are all factors that say: this game was going to be close, regardless of the chasm in talent between the two teams.

We've also got two shitty opponents up next in the Vikes and the Colts. The Chiefs will look composed and together. In reality, however, these two games (and the Chiefs should win at least one of them) are shitty teams against shitty teams, and shouldn't convince anybody on CP that this team is anything but a Bottom 5 squad.

**DaKCMan AP** · 09-26-2011, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Miami is a much better team than they're getting credit for, IMO.

That's a 6 win ballclub. They have some legit talent at the skill positions and can have bursts where they're able to score against anyone. Henne is hated by his fans, but he's really not that bad. He's below average because hes inconsistent, but when he's feeling locked in and Marshall's into the game, those guys are capable of blowing you out of the water.

I'm not worried about Miami.

They lost yesterday to Cleveland and they're division foes are the Jets, Buffalo, and New England. Their easiest remaining games are against Denver and KC. Their other opponents outside of the division are San Diego, Oakland, NY Giants, Dallas, Washington, and Philly.

**DaKCMan AP** · 09-26-2011, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

If we're going to be serious about drafting a QB then we need to start getting over Luck. Luck may or may not happen. If he does, great. Odds are not in our favor yet though.

Can we start having some discussion about the "Other" guys?

Barkley looked like crap against ASU.

Trevo_410 · 09-26-2011, 10:51 AM

Jones didn't look like a top 10 Overall pick either...

ModSocks · 09-26-2011, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

Barkley looked like crap against ASU.

How'd Foles look though?

**DaKCMan AP** · 09-26-2011, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

How'd Foles look though?

I didn't watch the Arizona game.

**DaKCMan AP** · 09-26-2011, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

How'd Foles look though?

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

I didn't watch the Arizona game.

His stat line was ok, would like to see a higher completion %:

34/57 398yds, 3TDs, 0int

Frankie · 09-26-2011, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

First off, the Chiefs are still a ****ing bad team, thanks to injury, Matt Cassel, and piss poor coaching/play calling.

I'm not ready to blame coaching for this yet. Last year it seemed the team played well and to the last minute for Haley. Also look at Bowe. Under Herm I bet he would have been a diva WR with not enough production to back it up. I credit Haley for Bowe playing like he is and with the attitude that he is.

I guess I do not want Haley fired ESPECIALLY if we get a stud QB like Luck under his teaching.

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

We've also got two shitty opponents up next in the Vikes and the Colts. The Chiefs will look composed and together. In reality, however, these two games (and the Chiefs should win at least one of them) are shitty teams against shitty teams, and shouldn't convince anybody on CP that this team is anything but a Bottom 5 squad.

We better not win against either of these "shitty" teams. That's like giving them the ticket to Luck. In that scenario they will have a head-to-head tie breaker for their draft position. Yikes!

**The Franchise** · 09-26-2011, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

His stat line was ok, would like to see a higher completion %:

34/57 398yds, 3TDs, 0int

That completion percentage was his WRs fault. They were dropping the easiest passes. Foles is doing a lot with not much talent around him.

**DaKCMan AP** · 09-26-2011, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

That completion percentage was his WRs fault. They were dropping the easiest passes. Foles is doing a lot with not much talent around him.

I didn't see the game, so I wouldn't know. His previous games all had completions %'s above 70 which is outstanding.

ModSocks · 09-26-2011, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

That completion percentage was his WRs fault. They were dropping the easiest passes. Foles is doing a lot with not much talent around him.

IF we end up with #2 overall (or just not #1) I'd be thrilled to have Foles.

****, at this point I'd be thrilled to have anyone...

**DaKCMan AP** · 09-26-2011, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

I didn't see the game, so I wouldn't know. His previous games all had completions %'s above 70 which is outstanding.

He also has 10 TDs and 0 INTs on the year, which is remarkable.

**The Franchise** · 09-26-2011, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

I didn't see the game, so I wouldn't know. His previous games all had completions %'s above 70 which is outstanding.

I watched it. His WRs were playing like a rookie Bowe.

If you have time....you can watch the replay.

http://espn.go.com/watchespn/index/_...eId/312670012/

**The Franchise** · 09-26-2011, 11:16 AM

Seriously though....if we don't have a shot at Luck.....I would be perfectly fine with grabbing Foles wherever we sit in the 1st round.

ChiefsCountry · 09-26-2011, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

Barkley looked like crap against ASU.

Yet the week before he was damn good. We will see this week as him and Foles get to battle it out.

Reerun_KC · 09-26-2011, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Seriously though....if we don't have a shot at Luck.....I would be perfectly fine with grabbing Foles wherever we sit in the 1st round.

This.....

09-26-2011, 09:45 AM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4353447	I'd still say the race for Andrew Luck is still on. First off, the Chiefs are still a ***ing bad team, thanks to injury, Matt Cassel, and piss poor coaching/play calling. Those blowouts we had to start the season were perfect indications of it. A close game with San Diego was predictable if you follow spot betting for professional football: 1. The Chargers just lost their Super Bowl of September against the Patriots. 2. The law of averages favors the Chiefs, two times over. 3. The emotional advantage is totally on KC’s side. 4. Todd Haley’s Chiefs compete after tough road losses. 5. Teams that aren’t total disaster cases like the Raiders tend to tense up and play up and beyond their best when they lose their franchise player(s). 6. The Chiefs aren’t as bad as everybody (including themselves) are making them out to be. These are all factors that say: this game was going to be close, regardless of the chasm in talent between the two teams. We've also got two shitty opponents up next in the Vikes and the Colts. The Chiefs will look composed and together. In reality, however, these two games (and the Chiefs should win at least one* of them) are shitty teams against shitty teams, and shouldn't convince anybody on CP that this team is anything but a Bottom 5 squad.
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