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Old 12-28-2012, 02:18 PM   #1
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So you're saying we have a roster chock full of talented quitters.

Got it.
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Old 12-28-2012, 02:20 PM   #2
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So you're saying we have a roster chock full of talented quitters.

Got it.
Well now we know why Hillis chose to sign here.
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Old 12-28-2012, 03:07 PM   #3
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Old 12-28-2012, 02:21 PM   #4
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So you're saying we have a roster chock full of talented quitters.

Got it.
We're in much the same position now as in '09. There is a talented core of players. Unfortunately, the majority of this core is now four years older because Pioli was truly terrible at his job.
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Old 12-28-2012, 02:21 PM   #5
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So you're saying we have a roster chock full of talented quitters.

Got it.
I would call them frustrated.


Or lacking in direction.


No QUALITY leadership from the top down.

How could any team win like that?


this organization is a total cluster **** and when it gets straightened out I think you will be surprised how everything changes
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Old 12-28-2012, 02:23 PM   #6
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I would call them frustrated.


Or lacking in direction.


No QUALITY leadership from the top down.

How could any team win like that?


this organization is a total cluster **** and when it gets straightened out I think you will be surprised how everything changes
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There's no leadership with Buffalo, Jacksonville, Oakland etc. either.

Yet they've won as many games or more than we have in the past 4 years, and with way less talent, according to the majority of this board.

Straightened out = drafting talented players.
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Old 12-28-2012, 02:35 PM   #7
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There's no leadership with Buffalo, Jacksonville, Oakland etc. either.

Yet they've won as many games or more than we have in the past 4 years, and with way less talent, according to the majority of this board.

Straightened out = drafting talented players.
Oakland seems to have changed their whole philosophy between last year and this. We should probably not lump them in quote yet. small sample size.

Jax sucks yes.

Buffalo has Chan gailey the chicken salad out of chicken shit guy. They made a mistake at the qb position...

Ohhhhhh maybe THAT'S the defining factor in all the teams you mentioned.

A franchise qb.
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Old 12-28-2012, 02:37 PM   #8
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Oakland seems to have changed their whole philosophy between last year and this. We should probably not lump them in quote yet. small sample size.

Jax sucks yes.

Buffalo has Chan gailey the chicken salad out of chicken shit guy. They made a mistake at the qb position...

Ohhhhhh maybe THAT'S the defining factor in all the teams you mentioned.

A franchise qb.
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Jason, you're missing the point.

All these teams have bad QB play.

All of these teams suffer from poor coaching/leadership.

But posters here seem to think we have a ton of talent that these other teams don't have - yet they've all won as many games (or more) than we have in the past 4 years.
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Old 12-28-2012, 02:39 PM   #9
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Jason, you're missing the point.

All these teams have bad QB play.

All of these teams suffer from poor coaching/leadership.

But posters here seem to think we have a ton of talent that these other teams don't have - yet they've all won as many games (or more) than we have in the past 4 years.
again sometimes that's just the way the ball bounces. Luck.


We are all in the same boat.

We are a talented team. They all gave talented players
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Old 12-28-2012, 03:10 PM   #10
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So you're saying we have a roster chock full of talented quitters.

Got it.
So the Colts QB fluctuation over the past 3 years hasn't shown you just how important the QB is?

Or now that Manning is in Denver? Or Russell Wilson? A QB fixes a LOT of bad things. How many wins can an elite QB account for?

Don't forget the QB's on his team have thrown 4 pick 6's, there has been a fumble "return" TD, and special teams has given up 2 TD's. That's 7 TD's there. Take them away, and the Chiefs are right in the middle of the package for total points given up.

THAT only accounts for a very small handful of the QB's 30 turnovers this season. Doesn't even consider how many times the offense turned the ball over inside of our own 50, 30, 20, or closer...

So sure, we could use upgrades over Lewis, Siler, TJ/Dorsey, and across from Flowers, and I hope we get them. They aren't necessary though, at least not all of them RIGHT NOW.

On offense, we need a QB, a deep threat, and upgrades/depth at TE, FB, RB and a line spot or two.

That doesn't mean that this team is devoid of talent. It has some really pieces though, which is a lot of talent for one team. Flowers, Berry, Houston, Hali, DJ, I like what I saw from a rookie Poe. Charles, Bowe, Albert. All players any team would love to have.

That isn't even including good to adequate players. The entire Oline, depth included is either good or adequate. Winston being one of my least favorite. Same goes for TE, and Breaston, DiMarco, Draughn, Gray. Also plenty of players on defense.

This team can make the playoffs next year EASY, if they pick the right QB and head coach, diagnose which positions that could be upgraded would payoff the most.

Deep threat WR, starting CB, DE's, would go a long way on this team.

Draft Geno, trader our 2nd and one of our 3rd's(comp pick) if that's what it takes to move back in order first and grab best deep threat WR(T. Williams if available in 20's). Best CB and 3-4 DEFENSE available in 3rd & 4th rounds.

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