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Old 11-23-2009, 08:37 AM  
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Hello Planeteers. Looking for some suggestions on what to look at on my wife's car. It's a 2000 Saturn SL-1. For several years now every now and then it will idle high if in park or neutral. It is doing it pretty much all the time now. What should I be looking at doing to get it to stop idling high? New plugs and wires, so that isn't it.
Also, last week we had the transmission checked out and it had a couple leaks, so those got fixed and the transmission was flushed and new fluids added. Well, ever since we got the car back(not sure how to describe this well, so bear with me) the car engine seems to be "working" more. IE, it is louder upon startup and while driving. When we are not pushing in the gas pedal it still maintains it's speed. So, going down any type of a hill means we have to break often to keep from speeding like crazy. Any ideas? Seems weird that it would start doing that after transmission work....
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Old 11-23-2009, 08:40 AM   #2
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Might want to have the throttle position sensors checked..... Could be an EGR valve problem also......


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Old 11-23-2009, 08:44 AM   #3
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The idle is more than likely controlled electronically and I don't believe you can adjust it yourself. Cars are much more "hands off" these days, you'll have to take it to a shop.

As far as the trans, if you're noticing issues at start-up, when the trans isn't doing anything, then it's likely not a trans problem at all. From what you're saying I believe all of your troubles are centered around the idle speed issue.
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Old 11-23-2009, 08:49 AM   #4
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Hmm, I'm not wanting to spend much, due to the car having 180k on it. However, sounds like it might be something I can't do anything about.... that stinks.
Sounds like the EGR valve may be something I could check out...
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Old 11-23-2009, 08:51 AM   #5
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Hmm, I'm not wanting to spend much, due to the car having 180k on it. However, sounds like it might be something I can't do anything about.... that stinks.
Sounds like the EGR valve may be something I could check out...
I have a 99 Suburban and just rolled 252,000 miles... I always spend the money and keep it up and running...

I am hoping to keep it on the road another 6 years until my son grads HS.
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Old 11-23-2009, 08:57 AM   #6
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Looking into the EGR valve, my engine doesn't knock or start to stall or anything that I am reading is a symptom of a clogged EGR valve, so I'm not sure that would be the issue.
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Old 11-23-2009, 09:06 AM   #7
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Looking into the EGR valve, my engine doesn't knock or start to stall or anything that I am reading is a symptom of a clogged EGR valve, so I'm not sure that would be the issue.
i would look for a vacuum leak first. is the check engine light on?
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Old 11-23-2009, 09:14 AM   #8
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i would look for a vacuum leak first. is the check engine light on?
No. Though one time we had an engine misfire code.
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Old 11-23-2009, 09:15 AM   #9
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No. Though one time we had an engine misfire code.
that wouldnt(or usually doesnt) cause high idle, i would be looking for a vacuum leak then next the idle speed motor
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Old 11-23-2009, 10:41 AM   #10
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It's a 2000 Saturn SL-1..
Found your problem.
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Old 11-23-2009, 10:47 AM   #11
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Just an FYI:

I was a Saturn Mechanic for four years...

The problem is likely the EGR and Purge Canister. The valve sticks open and causes vacume issues.

It could be one of the four position sensors but the EGR would be the place to start.
Take it to one of those places that will pull the fail codes for free and PM me. I'll run you through the process.
(EGR is located above the starter and is a bitch to get to btw)
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Old 11-23-2009, 06:06 PM   #13
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Take it to one of those places that will pull the fail codes for free and PM me.
What place would do this? Had the wife stop by Oreilly and Autozone, they said they only do check engine lights, not other codes.......
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What place would do this? Had the wife stop by Oreilly and Autozone, they said they only do check engine lights, not other codes.......
thats a fail code
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What place would do this? Had the wife stop by Oreilly and Autozone, they said they only do check engine lights, not other codes.......
It's not throwing a service engine soon light at you?
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