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Old 04-21-2008, 12:48 PM  
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Source: Vikings Increase Offer for Allen
http://min.scout.com/a.z?s=63&p=2&c=...%2f748330.html

According to a source in the Vikings organization, they have increased their trade offer for Jared Allen to 1st and 3rd round picks in 2008 and a 2nd round pick in 2009.

They're starting to bend.....
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Old 04-21-2008, 01:14 PM   #31
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An extra 2nd rounder next year might not be all bad, even if it is pick #64. And you never know, it could be much higher. Things happen. For example, who would have ever thought the Cleveland pick that Dallas got would not have been in the top 5, maybe even top 2 or 3? Same thing in reverse could happen for the Vikings.

As far as doing all the picks this year. Minnesota does not want to do #17 (worth 950 points) and #47 (worth 430 points), which is a total of 1380 points.

But they would go #17 and a 3rd... I'll use the higher pick here which could be the wrong one... at #73(worth 225 points) for a total of 1175 points.

How about this, which is somewhere in the middle of those two things...

We give them our 3rd at #66 which is worth 260 points, and they give us their 1st (950), 2nd (430), and lower 3rd which is #82 (180). That has a total point value of 1300, which is pretty well meeting in the middle.

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Old 04-21-2008, 01:15 PM   #32
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Old 04-21-2008, 01:16 PM   #33
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What if the Chiefs drafted Chris Long this year, then used that extra 1st, 2nd and 3rd to draft:
There's no way the Chiefs get Long in their current spot.
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Old 04-21-2008, 01:16 PM   #34
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There's no way the Chiefs get Long in their current spot.
He's gone with the #1 pick, it seems that we won't get a shot at Dorsey/the other Long either...we'll see what we get at 5, Ryan could be gone as well
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Old 04-21-2008, 01:19 PM   #35
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I'd personally wait until draft day and see how the 1st 4 picks play out before I make any decision. Dorsey falling to us shines a whole new light on the possibility of matching an offer for Allen. The safety net is, if we don't match, we get 2 1st's.
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Old 04-21-2008, 01:21 PM   #36
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I'd personally wait until draft day and see how the 1st 4 picks play out before I make any decision. Dorsey falling to us shines a whole new light on the possibility of matching an offer for Allen. The safety net is, if we don't match, we get 2 1st's.
Except he hasn't signed an offer sheet yet.
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Old 04-21-2008, 01:21 PM   #37
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I'd personally wait until draft day and see how the 1st 4 picks play out before I make any decision. Dorsey falling to us shines a whole new light on the possibility of matching an offer for Allen. The safety net is, if we don't match, we get 2 1st's.
What makes you think we even WANT to match an offer?
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Old 04-21-2008, 01:25 PM   #38
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What makes you think we even WANT to match an offer?
I'm not saying we do. I'm saying that if the best DT prospect in the draft falls to us at 5 would make me think hard about it. Also, I recoginize that Allen hasn't signed an offer sheet yet, but he's still visiting the 2nd team that has shown interest. Why not wait and see where the fair market values him. I'm all for getting what's best for this team.
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Jeesh, I still think 2 #1's is better, but it wouldn't be much better. Someone needs to write 'Walker' on the back of a Vikings 69 Jersey....
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What makes you think we even WANT to match an offer?
What makes you think that he'll sign with us?
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Its good, but JA just got to Tampa and they already threw in another pick. I'd sit tight.
Yup. I dislike Carl a great deal, but so far, so good.
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What makes you think that he'll sign with us?
I don't think he will, personally.

I think he'll take the change of scenery and a chance to win now, even if it means backing off a bit from his Freeney-like contract demands.
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I don't think he will, personally.

I think he'll take the change of scenery and a chance to win now, even if it means backing off a bit from his Freeney-like contract demands.
My thoughts exactly....
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Jeesh, I still think 2 #1's is better, but it wouldn't be much better. Someone needs to write 'Walker' on the back of a Vikings 69 Jersey....
No way are we getting 2 #1's. No team will ever give 2 #1's again unless its Tom Brady or Payton etc.

They don't even have to talk to the Chiefs is they are willing to do that.
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