Chiefs Vick Released!! - Page 4

**Skip Towne** · 05-20-2009, 11:12 AM

Just saw it on the noon news.

Coach · 05-21-2009, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by H1N1

What do you think is the BIGGER injustice?

2008 Micheal Vick is sentenace to 18 months in Federal Pen for bankrolling a dog fighting enterprise.

In 1998 Leonard Little leaves his 24th birtday party drunk off his ass and has a car accident that kills a woman (Wife and mother) Little received 60 days and 1000 hours of community service..

It seems to me we are being a LOT harsher to someone mistreating animals than we are to someone that takes a HUMAN life while being drunk?

Now Vick being prosucuted at the Federal level didn't help his case what so ever but the outcome still remains the same.

Well, I could say that both of them killed a "living being". Doesn't change this poster's opinion that both of them are piece of shits.

Kerberos · 05-21-2009, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

But the poor puppies

Leonard Little still is a POS to the extreme on a higher level than Vick, but it doesn't matter they both are shit

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Originally Posted by Coach

Well, I could say that both of them killed a "living being". Doesn't change this poster's opinion that both of them are piece of shits.

I'm not defending Vick or trying to make him out to be a martyr or anything and I do think both of them are waste of Oxygen.

But in the big picture I think our system is pretty F*#$% ed up when someone that kills a human pretty much gets off with basically a slap on the wrist and someone that kills some animals gets 18 months in the PEN. I just think that is injustice anyway you want to spin it.

Vick got what he deserved IMO. Little got off pretty much with just a record an NO WHERE near the punishment he should have gotten. That is my point with my post.

IMO with 18months for Vick then Little should have gotten 5-7 years for Involuntary Manslaughter.

Our Justice system seems to be assbackwards sometimes.

Brock · 05-21-2009, 08:22 AM

Leonard Little should still be in prison. Vick never should have gone to prison. Neither one of them should be playing in the NFL.

kcbubb · 05-21-2009, 10:37 AM

I'm sure I will get flamed and booed for saying this.....

but I would have loved to see Vick play in the so called "gimmick" offense that Gailey had last year with Thigpen.

The offense was set up for a great running QB with limited accuracy and limited decision making skills. If that does not fit Vick perfectly, I don't know what does.

StcChief · 05-21-2009, 11:58 AM

Vick will be in Chokeland soon enough.... wouldn't you like to have him at Arrowhead once a year to pound on.... ala the ... 56-10 when he was in ATL last time at Arrowhead.

**kysirsoze** · 05-21-2009, 12:13 PM

I can't believe some of you guys think Vick shouldn't have gone to jail. I'm not a PETA member or anything, but what he did was evil. The level of torture that he put those dogs through is serial killer level sadism. Obviously I'm not saying it's as bad as if it was people, and Leonard Little should definitely be in prison, but Vick is a disgusting individual.

Being a forgiving sort, I do hope he's "seen the error of his ways" and can turn his life around, but if he ever put on a Chiefs uniform, I would cease to be a Chiefs fan. (At least until he was done playing and maybe until Pioli was gone for bringing him in.)

Brock · 05-21-2009, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze

I can't believe some of you guys think Vick shouldn't have gone to jail. I'm not a PETA member or anything, but what he did was evil. The level of torture that he put those dogs through is serial killer level sadism. Obviously I'm not saying it's as bad as if it was people, and Leonard Little should definitely be in prison, but Vick is a disgusting individual.

Being a forgiving sort, I do hope he's "seen the error of his ways" and can turn his life around, but if he ever put on a Chiefs uniform, I would cease to be a Chiefs fan. (At least until he was done playing and maybe until Pioli was gone for bringing him in.)

he didn't steal from or hurt any other person. IMO, those are the only reasons you should ever go to prison. Dogs are property, not people.

It's not like I don't think he should be punished at all. He should lose his career.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 05-21-2009, 12:24 PM

Make him wear Brock's avatar shoes for a year; that'll show him.

**kysirsoze** · 05-21-2009, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

he didn't steal from or hurt any other person. IMO, those are the only reasons you should ever go to prison. Dogs are property, not people.

It's not like I don't think he should be punished at all. He should lose his career.

Wow. I am just so far from your line of thinking I don't know how to respond. I guess when I think of him doing those things to an innocent being of any type, not to mention one that I am close to, it makes me want to rip the guys head off. Agree to disagree I suppose.

kcbubb · 05-21-2009, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze

Wow. I am just so far from your line of thinking I don't know how to respond. I guess when I think of him doing those things to an innocent being of any type, not to mention one that I am close to, it makes me want to rip the guys head off. Agree to disagree I suppose.

Do you eat chicken???

Here's what KFC supposedly does...

"KFC suppliers cram birds into huge waste-filled factories, breed and drug them to grow so large that they can’t even walk, and often break their wings and legs. At slaughter, the birds’ throats are slit and they are dropped into tanks of scalding-hot water—often while they are still conscious."

http://www.kentuckyfriedcruelty.com/

I don't agree with what Vick did, but I think he paid his punishment and should be able to resume his life and career. The NFL is a job.

What if we didn't let anyone who got out of prison go back to work??? He did his time. He should be able to resume his life. You can't punish criminals forever... In some instances you have to limit their liberty, (a sex offender can't be a teacher) but that should only apply to specific cases.

Brock · 05-21-2009, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb

I don't agree with what Vick did, but I think he paid his punishment and should be able to resume his life and career. The NFL is a job.

What if we didn't let anyone who got out of prison go back to work??? He did his time. He should be able to resume his life. You can't punish criminals forever... In some instances you have to limit their liberty, (a sex offender can't be a teacher) but that should only apply to specific cases.

He should be able to work. Just not in the NFL.

kcbubb · 05-21-2009, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

He should be able to work. Just not in the NFL.

ok... I'm just curious, where do you draw the line? what about the following?

roids
weed
cocaine
spousal abuse... say he slaps his wife..
DWI
speeding tickets
tax evasion
theft

Brock · 05-21-2009, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb

ok... I'm just curious, where do you draw the line? what about the following?

roids
weed
cocaine
spousal abuse... say he slaps his wife..
DWI
speeding tickets
tax evasion
theft

A couple of those carry as much negative stigma for the NFL as what Vick did. Most of them don't. You don't have to like it, but letting a guy back into your league who tortured dogs to death is going to hurt business in a way a guy who slapped his wife around probably wouldn't.

Consistent1 · 05-21-2009, 01:12 PM

I say let him do whatever someone is willing to pay him for. It isn't my choice. There are tons of people that are dying of curiousity to see what he has left. He won't really drag any team that signs him down. If some team that signed him played at Arrowhead next season and got him through the process with Goodell and had him on the roster, what would that do for ticket sales for that game? Protesters, whatever. If he goes out and plays well, it will turn around hella fast. Most people simply aren't PETA fanatics, they know there are people that engage in dogfighting, etc. The return of the "thug" will be a success IF he can still contribute to some team. What Vick really did wrong was bankroll his idiot friends project instead of just giving them a handout. Probably made financial sense at the time because he had not shed the hanger-on types. Would he have pissed away the time himself without his crew? I doubt it. I wouldn't even be mad if KC signed his ass up and confused people with him, used him on returns, etc. He ain't gonna make no money compared to most players anyway. He is a draw, people will want to see him kick-ass, or they will want to see him fall flat. Whatever, pro sports is a damn circus anyway.

kcbubb · 05-21-2009, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

A couple of those carry as much negative stigma for the NFL as what Vick did. Most of them don't. You don't have to like it, but letting a guy back into your league who tortured dogs to death is going to hurt business in a way a guy who slapped his wife around probably wouldn't.

Actually... it's just the opposite for me. bc you would be developing a standard that is ok to beat your wife and use drugs but not ok to kill and torture dogs.

to me, it's worse to beat your wife than to kill a dog.

I would be mad if they let a thug like pacman back in but not Vick.

If they didn't let pacman back in, I would feel much better about them not letting Vick in either.

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Consistent1 _____________ Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $10004900	I say let him do whatever someone is willing to pay him for. It isn't my choice. There are tons of people that are dying of curiousity to see what he has left. He won't really drag any team that signs him down. If some team that signed him played at Arrowhead next season and got him through the process with Goodell and had him on the roster, what would that do for ticket sales for that game? Protesters, whatever. If he goes out and plays well, it will turn around hella fast. Most people simply aren't PETA fanatics, they know there are people that engage in dogfighting, etc. The return of the "thug" will be a success IF he can still contribute to some team. What Vick really did wrong was bankroll his idiot friends project instead of just giving them a handout. Probably made financial sense at the time because he had not shed the hanger-on types. Would he have pissed away the time himself without his crew? I doubt it. I wouldn't even be mad if KC signed his ass up and confused people with him, used him on returns, etc. He ain't gonna make no money compared to most players anyway. He is a draw, people will want to see him kick-ass, or they will want to see him fall flat. Whatever, pro sports is a damn circus anyway.
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