Chiefs Matt Barkley interview - Page 2

Messier · 02-22-2013, 11:14 AM

If the Chiefs like him the most, take him at one. He won't be there in the second.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 02-22-2013, 11:16 AM

ModSocks · 02-22-2013, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

This isn't even the best throw in that game.

He also throws a 15-20 yard out route to the sideline and put the ball right over the defenders head.

htismaqe · 02-22-2013, 11:16 AM

Barkley isn't gonna be there in the 2nd.

DJ's left nut · 02-22-2013, 11:18 AM

Am I going to have to go get the Cassel clip of him throwing the ball 55 yards in the air again? Folks, neither of those throws demonstrate a strong arm.

I'd rather take Barkley than Joekel as well, but he does not have anything more than an average NFL arm. He's Matt Schaub at best.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 02-22-2013, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Am I going to have to go get the Cassel clip of him throwing the ball 55 yards in the air again? Folks, neither of those throws demonstrate a strong arm.

I'd rather take Barkley than Joekel as well, but he does not have anything more than an average NFL arm. He's Matt Schaub at best.

Jump to 320 NFL Throw

DJ's left nut · 02-22-2013, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Jump to 320 NFL Throw

Again, why is this impressive?

He puts a ball 50 yards in the air with a completely clean pocket and enough room to take a full stride and then some. Hell, the ball was thrown late and under-thrown at that.

Matt Cassel can make that throw. Matt Cassel has made that throw.

His arm isn't a strength.

PaulAllen · 02-22-2013, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Again, why is this impressive?

He puts a ball 50 yards in the air with a completely clean pocket and enough room to take a full stride and then some. Hell, the ball was thrown late and under-thrown at that.

Matt Cassel can make that throw. Matt Cassel has made that throw.

His arm isn't a strength.

What do you want to see? On his knees throwing 70? Jamarcus and Boller can do that.

**FRCDFED** · 02-22-2013, 11:42 AM

He'll have his day to prove to the professional scouts what throws he can or can't make and where he needs work on his mechanics. The kid has to mentally overcome the USC QB curse and an injury. If he has the drive and motivation to overcome those to prove he is better and does well then he has the makings to be a fine QB. I want an accurate QB that can spread the field and make all the intermediate throws and stretch the field on occasion. He will be heavily scrutinized over the coming weeks.

PaulAllen · 02-22-2013, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Am I going to have to go get the Cassel clip of him throwing the ball 55 yards in the air again? Folks, neither of those throws demonstrate a strong arm.

I'd rather take Barkley than Joekel as well, but he does not have anything more than an average NFL arm. He's Matt Schaub at best.

You dont have to have a super stud arm. Could you compare him to Schaub in arm strength? Sure. You could also compare him to Eli, Rivers, Romo, Brady etc...

Cassel literally has/had the worst arm in the NFL

DJ's left nut · 02-22-2013, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulAllen

You dont have to have a super stud arm. Could you compare him to Schaub in arm strength? Sure. You could also compare him to Eli, Rivers, Romo, Brady etc...

Cassel literally has/had the worst arm in the NFL

No you can't.

Eli has a stronger arm, Romo has a stronger arm and Brady has a stronger arm.

Matt Barkley's arm isn't an asset. At best, it's not a liability.

PaulAllen · 02-22-2013, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

No you can't.

Eli has a stronger arm, Romo has a stronger arm and Brady has a stronger arm.

Matt Barkley's arm isn't an asset. At best, it's not a liability.

Cmon dude. Im not saying hes Flacco or Rodgers but youre making a very subjective statement. His arm "strength" is probably better than Andrew Luck but that didnt stop people from drooling all over him. I get that you could say its not an 'asset' but to say that it might be a liability is just wrong.

htismaqe · 02-22-2013, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulAllen

Cmon dude. Im not saying hes Flacco or Rodgers but youre making a very subjective statement. His arm "strength" is probably better than Andrew Luck but that didnt stop people from drooling all over him. I get that you could say its not an 'asset' but to say that it might be a liability is just wrong.

He didn't say it was a liability. He said at best, it's not a liability.

Mr. Laz · 02-22-2013, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulAllen

His arm "strength" is probably better than Andrew Luck but that didnt stop people from drooling all over him.

ummm ... no

DJ's left nut · 02-22-2013, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulAllen

Cmon dude. Im not saying hes Flacco or Rodgers but youre making a very subjective statement. His arm "strength" is probably better than Andrew Luck but that didnt stop people from drooling all over him. I get that you could say its not an 'asset' but to say that it might be a liability is just wrong.

Of course I am - care to tell me how I can make an 'objective' statement regarding arm strength? It ain't madden - there's not an 'ARM' rating for him I can just go look up.

But I've seen him throw - his arm is average on its best day. It's not better than Matt Schaubs and do you ever list arm strength as being one of Schaub's strengths?

You're seeing what you want to see here. His arm is just an average arm. By definition, that's not an asset - it's just not a liability.

EDIT:

Wait...I just re-read. His arm strength is better than Andrew Lucks?

Yeah, I'm done having this conversation with you. You clearly have no goddamn clue what you're talking about.

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