The Raiders have a Gruden problem

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

10 million words to say that Gruden is average/mediocre.

How much more is that than super average Andy?

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

How much more is that than super average Andy?

One of the winningest coaches in history, who immediately turned the worst team in the league into a consistent winner is super average. Brilliant take.

[Hoover]

This looks like an article that attempts to save face for Reggie McKenzie, who face it, hasn't done well in Oakland. Any idiot on the street could have drafted Mack, Carr, and Cooper.

Gruden is a problem. But before one judges their FA moves, I want to see who they draft.

[lawrenceRaider]

For the love of god.

[BucEyedPea]

Gruden has always preferred to buy the groceries.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

When he was first hired, I expected a short term boost. I thought he’d come in and at least get them to play hard and win 10 or so games in 2018.

Now, seeing their moves... I’m iffy at best. I think the whole thing could go off the rails.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

He was average before. Been out 20 years . Getting rid of his weapons to make a point that he's boss. I'm liken it.

Raiders will continue to battle Denver for the #1 draft pick.

[lawrenceRaider]

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin

He was average before. Been out 20 years . Getting rid of his weapons to make a point that he's boss. I'm liken it.

Raiders will continue to battle Denver for the #1 draft pick.

So which "weapon" was a difference maker that was traded or released? Hint, none of the guys listed were difference makers.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

So which "weapon" was a difference maker that was traded or released? Hint, none of the guys listed were difference makers.

I think Oakland is a better team with Crabtree. He'd disappear for games at a time, but he always seemed to make a clutch catch or score when they absolutely needed it.

[lawrenceRaider]

Originally Posted by Bowser

I think Oakland is a better team with Crabtree. He'd disappear for games at a time, but he always seemed to make a clutch catch or score when they absolutely needed it.

That muthafaquer quit on the team last year, and had trouble catching a cold. I'd rather have Jordy Nelson, even at his age than Crabtree.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

That muthafaquer quit on the team last year, and had trouble catching a cold. I'd rather have Jordy Nelson, even at his age than Crabtree.

Jordy is the better player.

[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

So which "weapon" was a difference maker that was traded or released? Hint, none of the guys listed were difference makers.

Crabtree made all your big plays in the red zone.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

So which "weapon" was a difference maker that was traded or released? Hint, none of the guys listed were difference makers.

Crabtree and King were good players

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin

Crabtree and King were good players

both were locker room "me first" cancers.....interesting there were no Raider tweets saying goodbye or good luck to either of them. Thats telling

[Nickhead]

Originally Posted by jdubya

both were locker room "me first" cancers.....interesting there were no Raider tweets saying goodbye or good luck to either of them. Thats telling

i said the same about marcus peters when he was traded