* Kansas City Royals @ Philadelphia Phillies Game Thread (4/6) *

[alnorth]

Final	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	R	H	E
KC (2-3)	0	0	0	0	2	0	1	0	0	3	6	0
PHI (2-3)	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	3	4	3	2

Luis Mendoza 6IP 1R 1ER 3BB 7K
Hold, (2) Aaron Crow 1IP 0R 0ER 0BB 1K
Hold, (2) Kelvin Herrera 1IP 0R 0ER 0BB 2K
Blown Save, (1); Loss, (0-1) Greg Holland ⅔IP 3R 3ER 3BB 2K

VS.



John Lannan 7IP 3R 3ER 0BB 5K
Mike Adams 1IP 0R 0ER 0BB 1K
Win, (1-0) Antonio Bastardo 1IP 0R 0ER 1BB 0K

Home Runs

none

AL Central

Final: SEA 3, CWS 4
Final: NYY 4, DET 8
Final: MIN 6, BAL 5
Final: CLE 0, TB 6

Starting Lineups

KC

1. Alex Gordon, LF
2. Alcides Escobar, SS
3. Billy Butler, 1B
3. Jarrod Dyson, pr
3. Kelvin Herrera, P
3. Greg Holland, P
4. Salvador Perez, C
5. Lorenzo Cain, CF
6. Jeff Francoeur, RF
7. Miguel Tejada, 3B
7. Aaron Crow, P
7. Eric Hosmer, 1B
8. Elliot Johnson, 2B/3B
9. Luis Mendoza, P
9. Chris Getz, ph/2B

PHI

1. Ben Revere, CF
2. Jimmy Rollins, SS
3. Chase Utley, 2B
4. Ryan Howard, 1B
4. Ezequiel Carrera, pr
5. Michael Young, 3B
6. Domonic Brown, LF
7. John Mayberry, RF
8. Humberto Quintero, C
8. Kevin Frandsen, ph
9. John Lannan, P
9. Mike Adams, P
9. Laynce Nix, ph
9. Antonio Bastardo, P

[Mother****erJones]

There must be a reason Holland is your guy's closer and no one else is.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by doomy3

Laz's brain is permanently rattled.

He also thinks Bill Self sucks as a basketball coach, so...

you're such a lying piece of shit

[tk13]

If Yost was a good manager, he could predict what each hitter is going to do and pull the pitchers before they give up scoring plays to those hitters.

[alnorth]

Originally Posted by tk13

I've seen closers get pulled. But that's not going to happen after they've blown away two straight hitters.

I've only ever seen a closer get pulled after the lead has been blown and its a tie (or worse, if its the home team). I've never seen a closer get yanked with the team still up.

[Mother****erJones]

And that last hit wasn't lucky. Holland threw a ****ing high fastball and he was sitting on it.

[tk13]

Originally Posted by alnorth

I've only ever seen a closer get pulled after the lead has been blown and its a tie (or worse, if its the home team). I've never seen a closer get yanked with the team still up.

Like I said, I am 99% sure I've actually seen LaRussa do it. But certainly not on an every-game basis.

[MeatRock]

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

And that last hit wasn't lucky. Holland threw a ****ing high fastball and he was sitting on it.

Correct. Bad pitch on that hit. Chest high heater got smoked.

[alnorth]

Originally Posted by tk13

Like I said, I am 99% sure I've actually seen LaRussa do it. But certainly not on an every-game basis.

oh.... OK, I'll give you the LaRussa exception.

[Three7s]

Holland ****ing sucks.

I'm on the bandwagon for Herrera at closer. Holland just doesn't have the mentality.

[MeatRock]

Originally Posted by Three7s

Holland ****ing sucks.

I'm on the bandwagon for Herrera at closer. Holland just doesn't have the mentality.

Based off of one blown save this year? oh ok.

[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by MeatRock

Correct. Bad pitch on that hit. Chest high heater got smoked.

I said that because I seen someone post that he's a lucky piece of shit. No he's not. He's got one of the ****ing hardest jobs in baseball. Sit on the bench, in the cold, and with no ABs come up and win the game. He was sitting on that, with the frame of mind if he throws a first pitch fastball, that's my best shot to win the game. Just a terrible pitch by Holland.

[Mother****erJones]

You guys will be ok. Can't overreact over a blown save, as hard as it is.

[Three7s]

Originally Posted by MeatRock

Based off of one blown save this year? oh ok.

Yeah, because his first appearance was DOMINANT!

[Mother****erJones]

How old is Holland?

[Nickel D]

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

He's your closer. You bring him in no matter what to close games.

When your closer throws 3 walks before getting an out, he no longer should be a closer. The ump's strike zone was tight all night. Yost, Perez...everyone in the ballpark knew that. The closer's job is to hit the strike zone, whatever the size of it.

Again, Herrera threw 11 strikes in just 14 pitches (I erroneously previously said 13 pitches; I stand corrected). If he gets in trouble early in the 9th, then you can knock your socks off and go with Holland...who, BTW, could have been brought in for the final 2 outs to get his precious save.

God forbid if anyone other than Holland gets a save for the Royals this year. He's counting on getting his ticket punched to Cooperstown...not for his total saves number, but for total number of save opportunities -- because that's what really counts.