Sperm donor needs to pay child support?

[Prison Bitch]

Why can't the Lesbians pay the child's bills, again? What's the story there?

[luv]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Why can't the Lesbians pay the child's bills, again? What's the story there?

Probably because their union is not legally recognized in the state. It would be the same as if it were a heterosexual boyfriend/girlfriend in a non-common law marriage state, I would think. Say the boyfriend can't get the girlfriend prego, so they use a third party's sperm. The couple breaks up. The boyfriend would not be responsible for paying child support, because it's technically not his kid.

[KCFaninSEA]

Originally Posted by luv

Probably because their union is not legally recognized in the state. It would be the same as if it were a heterosexual boyfriend/girlfriend in a non-common law marriage state, I would think. Say the boyfriend can't get the girlfriend prego, so they use a third party's sperm. The couple breaks up. The boyfriend would not be responsible for paying child support, because it's technically not his kid.

Much depends on the state. In my state if a child lives with you and would be adversely affected by moving, the child could be awarded support to continue living in the same type of atmosphere. Messed up but it has happened.

[ndws]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Why can't the Lesbians pay the child's bills, again? What's the story there?

I think, if I remember right, the lesbians seperated. Something about one of them maybe seeking state aid I think, and that triggered the child support. I don't think they wanted it, and I don't think he wanted to give it...so the court did the obvious thing and said he had to because he didn't have a medical professional (who spent some money with the state to get his license) sling the goo in her for him.

[Oh Snap]

Artificial insemination can cost upwards of $30,000. That is a lot of money. That is probably why they went through alternative means to get pregnant. Now did he actually have sex with one of the lesbos? I still fail to see how he is liable, especially considering a written agreement of which they acknowledge? Can't they just be grateful that they didn't have to shell out an extra $30k for a child that they apparently wanted?

[alnorth]

Originally Posted by Oh Snap

Artificial insemination can cost upwards of $30,000. That is a lot of money. That is probably why they went through alternative means to get pregnant. Now did he actually have sex with one of the lesbos? I still fail to see how he is liable, especially considering a written agreement of which they acknowledge? Can't they just be grateful that they didn't have to shell out an extra $30k for a child that they apparently wanted?

Good for the lesbians, they saved 30k, and they get to keep the kid.

Bad for the idiot man. You can't let them "save money" if you are the sperm donor, if its your ass thats going to be on the line if the state decides to pursue you later for child support. Its the law in nearly every state.

edit: regarding the documents, if you are legally recognized to be the father (which he is, he was not a sperm donor), then you are not permitted to sign away your financial responsibility, even if you agree to waive all custody and parental rights.

[Oh Snap]

Originally Posted by alnorth

Good for the lesbians, they saved 30k, and they get to keep the kid.

Bad for the idiot man. You can't let them "save money" if you are the sperm donor, if its your ass thats going to be on the line if the state decides to pursue you later for child support. Its the law in nearly every state.

Sounds like the man was set up. Then again, as you said, no one forced him to be the donor.

[alnorth]

Originally Posted by Oh Snap

Sounds like the man was set up. Then again, as you said, no one forced him to be the donor.

he probably wasn't set up, the stupid lesbians probably thought he'd be in the clear too. They didn't go after him, the state did.

[alnorth]

Look at it from the state's point of view. As a matter of public policy, we have decided that if you have sex with a woman and knock her up, then you are the father, and entitled to parental rights and financially responsible, with some odd exceptions like rape. As a matter of public policy, we have also decided that fathers and mothers can not waive financial responsibility, unless the kid is adopted out.

Whether you agree with it or not, thats the case. OK, since that is the case...

if you don't go through a clinic or a doctor, how is the state supposed to know whether or not you had sex? As far as they are concerned, you might be lying, and maybe the woman is helping you lie in exchange for sole custody. Even if she claims to be a lesbian, maybe she's bi, or drunk, or whatever, the state doesn't want to hear it.

There's a procedure that must be followed to be a sperm donor. If you don't follow that procedure, the state is just going to assume you knocked her up.

[Oh Snap]

Originally Posted by alnorth

he probably wasn't set up, the stupid lesbians probably thought he'd be in the clear too. They didn't go after him, the state did.

Ok, then that changes things quite a bit. Why is the state pursuing this with such fervor? To make an example for those who do not follow the state monopoly rule?

[J Diddy]

Originally Posted by Oh Snap

Sounds like the man was set up. Then again, as you said, no one forced him to be the donor.

This dude saw an ad on Craigslist for some ****ing and applied. He should have at least consulted an attorney over a legal contract, however, he was thinking with his prick, wanted some tang, and, just like anybody else who's ****ing for the sake of tang can, he got burned.

Moral of this story: Get off Craigslist, go to the club, pick up a chick, put on a condom and then don't worry about paying child support.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by J Diddy

This dude saw an ad on Craigslist for some ****ing and applied. He should have at least consulted an attorney over a legal contract, however, he was thinking with his prick, wanted some tang, and, just like anybody else who's ****ing for the sake of tang can, he got burned.

Moral of this story: Get off Craigslist, go to the club, pick up a chick, put on a condom and then don't worry about paying child support.

He didn't get tang. he spanked it into a cup.

[luv]

Originally Posted by alnorth

edit: regarding the documents, if you are legally recognized to be the father (which he is, he was not a sperm donor), then you are not permitted to sign away your financial responsibility, even if you agree to waive all custody and parental rights.

Really? My brother signed over such rights, and he only owed back child support from the time he and his ex divorced until the time he signed over his rights. Of course, their stepdad adopted them at the same time.

He should have had them put in the agreement that the non-child bearing partner would adopt the child once it was born. Of course, he'd still be on the hook, because I doubt they'd list two mothers.

[alnorth]

Originally Posted by luv

Really? My brother signed over such rights, and he only owed back child support from the time he and his ex divorced until the time he signed over his rights. Of course, their stepdad adopted them at the same time.

He should have had them put in the agreement that the non-child bearing partner would adopt the child once it was born. Of course, he'd still be on the hook, because I doubt they'd list two mothers.

The adoption changes things.

[Jenson71]

Originally Posted by Oh Snap

Artificial insemination can cost upwards of $30,000. That is a lot of money. That is probably why they went through alternative means to get pregnant. Now did he actually have sex with one of the lesbos? I still fail to see how he is liable, especially considering a written agreement of which they acknowledge? Can't they just be grateful that they didn't have to shell out an extra $30k for a child that they apparently wanted?

I don't think written agreements (particularly by unsophisticated parties) go too far in family law issues. Your private promises don't really trump "public policy."