Iron Man 3

[Sure-Oz]

Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth

I liked it better than the #2.

Its not amazing, but they tried a fresh approach on it, and it was entertaining. Less jokes it felt like but there were a few that I actually laughed out loud, and some solid action scenes.

Don't go in with TDK expectations, but a solid flick- plus I just never clicked with #2 as it felt scattered and really kind of thin in keeping my interest or amusement with the baddies.

good to know, im def more stoked for Man of Steel

[Anyong Bluth]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Honestly, this describes every Marvel film except The Avengers. They are all solid flicks, but nothing on the scale of Dark Knight. Nothing that's a game changer or mind blowing.

Fair enough, but they raised the bar compared to how well super hero flicks in general. Ya, x-men 1 and the original Spiderman was well received, even though I didn't particularly love McGuire in the role and liked last year's Spiderman way more.

The genre as a whole had a lot of crappy releases that often ended up straight to video, and really the Superman movies in the late 70's early 80's were it except the occasional outlier.

Movies like Spawn, or the early 90's Captain America, DareDevil, etc attempts were film abortions, and having Marvel and others intervene and protect their brands and bringing in better writers, directors and talent has made the superhero flicks way way better even if that simply means they would get a solid B grade or so if you're being objective in their quality.

Ironically, the new director for IM3 has his roots in scribing the original Lethal Weapon franchise, and when watching the movie there were scenes that I totally thought of those movies, and I didn't know this before seeing the movie. Don't think many will see this as it was just minor scene location choices and what not. Don't worry, Tony Stark doesn't go all "Rog" and start saying " I'm getting to old for this shit!" or anything.

On a sidenote, I do think Downey Jr. Probably had a great deal of input on who they chose as the director for 3, as they had previously worked together right after Downey's downfall and slide in Hollywood on Kiss Kiss Bang Bang.
A movie that I love, and put Downey back on the path to A list actor after he was considered too much a risk and all the negative PR had almost killed his career.

His performance with Val Kilmer was awesome. Oddly enough, Kilmer has sort of grown up, and started taking stronger minor roles in very good projects as well as more feature roles in smaller budget, independent or limited release films that have been really good.

Sort of like Affleck stepping away from the leading man shit roles and charging his own career by getting back to writing, directing, and way more selective in his project choices, but obviously to a much smaller degree or trajectory because Val is older and more limited at this point of his career.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth

Fair enough, but they raised the bar compared to how well super hero flicks in general. Ya, x-men 1 and the original Spiderman was well received, even though I didn't particularly love McGuire in the role and liked last year's Spiderman way more.

The genre as a whole had a lot of crappy releases that often ended up straight to video, and really the Superman movies in the late 70's early 80's were it except the occasional outlier.

Movies like Spawn, or the early 90's Captain America, DareDevil, etc attempts were film abortions, and having Marvel and others intervene and protect their brands and bringing in better writers, directors and talent has made the superhero flicks way way better even if that simply means they would get a solid B grade or so if you're being objective in their quality.

Ironically, the new director for IM3 has his roots in scribing the original Lethal Weapon franchise, and when watching the movie there were scenes that I totally thought of those movies, and I didn't know this before seeing the movie. Don't think many will see this as it was just minor scene location choices and what not. Don't worry, Tony Stark doesn't go all "Rog" and start saying " I'm getting to old for this shit!" or anything.

On a sidenote, I do think Downey Jr. Probably had a great deal of input on who they chose as the director for 3, as they had previously worked together right after Downey's downfall and slide in Hollywood on Kiss Kiss Bang Bang.
A movie that I love, and put Downey back on the path to A list actor after he was considered too much a risk and all the negative PR had almost killed his career.

His performance with Val Kilmer was awesome. Oddly enough, Kilmer has sort of grown up, and started taking stronger minor roles in very good projects as well as more feature roles in smaller budget, independent or limited release films that have been really good.

Sort of like Affleck stepping away from the leading man shit roles and charging his own career by getting back to writing, directing, and way more selective in his project choices, but obviously to a much smaller degree or trajectory because Val is older and more limited at this point of his career.

I meant the Marvel studios films since 2008.

IM1 and 2
Incredible Hulk
Thor
Captain America
Avengers


All solid films, except Avengers which i thought was spectacular.

The other films you mentioned are Marvel character films, but made by other studios. Not by Marvel themselves.

Kiss Kiss Bang Bang was awesome. Love that flick.

[Anyong Bluth]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

I meant the Marvel studios films since 2008.

IM1 and 2
Incredible Hulk
Thor
Captain America
Avengers


All solid films, except Avengers which i thought was spectacular.

The other films you mentioned are Marvel character films, but made by other studios. Not by Marvel themselves.

Kiss Kiss Bang Bang was awesome. Love that flick.

Agreed all around as we were on the same line of thinking.

I really really like Avengers, but I'm even more amazed that I recognize what an almost impossible achievement that was to pull off.

Adequate attention to each character.
Strong plot that is original.
Keeping the proper film pacing with a single release time constraint.
I could go on and on even though I'm not in love with the flick but thinks its tremendously good and have very little to be critical about it considering the magnitude of the challenges at hand to actually not just pull it off but to end up being Marvel's strongest offering. Others will falsely claim with all those guys in it how could it not make it easy to make, but if that was true they fail to see how it can turn into a disjointed mess that feels like strung along scenes of cameos in a bland formulaic offering.

Might just need to pop on Kiss Kiss Bang Bang for a rewatch this evening!

[Buehler445]

You sons of BITCHES! Kiss Kiss Bang Bang is on HBO and I had to watch it.

Good flick though.

[DBOSHO]

Not a huge fan of this one.

[Javabean]

Thought it was a good movie, but not great. Easily better than the second one but not in the same league as The Avengers.

[Reaper16]

So much better than #2.

[Aries Walker]

I put this about on the same level as #2. It was overall good, but it had some fairly severe problems and disappointments.

[Deberg_1990]

Just watched it with my son. We really enjoyed it. Alot better than 2, maybe better than 1. It's funny, it was basically an Iron Man film grafted onto the Shane Black formula. With a few revisions, this could have been another Lethal Weapon flick. A lot of scenes and dialogue were pure Shane Black. I like how the entire middle act with the kid was basically kept hidden from the trailers.

Spoiler!

A lot of fans will probably be upset by the Mandarin thing. Truthfully, it was kinda corny....and if your gonna use an iconic comic character like that, why use him at all? Why not just change the character name?

[KCFalcon59]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Just watched it with my son. We really enjoyed it. Alot better than 2, maybe better than 1. It's funny, it was basically an Iron Man film grafted onto the Shane Black formula. With a few revisions, this could have been another Lethal Weapon flick. A lot of scenes and dialogue were pure Shane Black. I like how the entire middle act with the kid was basically kept hidden from the trailers.

Spoiler!

A lot of fans will probably be upset by the Mandarin thing. Truthfully, it was kinda corny....and if your gonna use an iconic comic character like that, why use him at all? Why not just change the character name?

Spoiler!

I thought the Mandarin character was nonsensical and as you said corny.

I did enjoy the movie a lot. Worth the money.

[Anyong Bluth]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Just watched it with my son. We really enjoyed it. Alot better than 2, maybe better than 1. It's funny, it was basically an Iron Man film grafted onto the Shane Black formula. With a few revisions, this could have been another Lethal Weapon flick. A lot of scenes and dialogue were pure Shane Black. I like how the entire middle act with the kid was basically kept hidden from the trailers.

Spoiler!

A lot of fans will probably be upset by the Mandarin thing. Truthfully, it was kinda corny....and if your gonna use an iconic comic character like that, why use him at all? Why not just change the character name?

Spoiler!

I was too kinda disappointed bc all the buzz was this was Ironman's archrival and all the talk about how his history with him made for some of the best plots in the Ironman canon.

Also, I was very into Kingsley's performance and how menacing he came off- like it was building up to some really awesome chess match between the two.
Really seemed to be establishing by far the best villain of the 3 flicks.

I would really enjoy if there was a follow up where somehow Kingsley's character actually does transform into the Mandarin. As I understand in the comics he finds the rings which are alien origin, so what if he came upon the rings and it caused him to take on his Mandarin act for real and no longer just pretending to be him.

Yeah, it may be cheesy or a stretch but I would really love to see Kingsley return to the role and actually get a true movie pitting the two against one another.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth

Spoiler!

I was too kinda disappointed bc all the buzz was this was Ironman's archrival and all the talk about how his history with him made for some of the best plots in the Ironman canon.

Also, I was very into Kingsley's performance and how menacing he came off- like it was building up to some really awesome chess match between the two.
Really seemed to be establishing by far the best villain of the 3 flicks.

I would really enjoy if there was a follow up where somehow Kingsley's character actually does transform into the Mandarin. As I understand in the comics he finds the rings which are alien origin, so what if he came upon the rings and it caused him to take on his Mandarin act for real and no longer just pretending to be him.

Yeah, it may be cheesy or a stretch but I would really love to see Kingsley return to the role and actually get a true movie pitting the two against one another.

Yep, pretty much agree with all that. The Etremis soldiers were pretty badass. I liked them a lot.

[bowener]

Fun as hell but definitely not the best Iron Man. I know Black's work, but the direction just seemed kind of all over the place. Still a fun movie to see, and it is further proof that there can never be another actor that plays Tony Stark. RDJ is the only person that has the right kind of dickishness and charisma that this part demands.

[Anyong Bluth]

Originally Posted by bowener

Fun as hell but definitely not the best Iron Man. I know Black's work, but the direction just seemed kind of all over the place. Still a fun movie to see, and it is further proof that there can never be another actor that plays Tony Stark. RDJ is the only person that has the right kind of dickishness and charisma that this part demands.

I'll agree Downey is the perfect match to play Stark. Sadly he's said he's fastly approaching 50 and just can't keep doing it much longer, so we may get him for a bit longer but they're going to have to start floating ideas for the replacement just like they've started for Craig with Bond.

I think James Franco could be an intriguing choice.... haven't thought too much that one just kinda popped off the top of my head.