Chiefs Kruger cut by Browns. - Page 5

Dunerdr · 08-29-2016, 10:00 AM

For teams looking at a complementary veteran this offseason, look no further than the open marketplace in Cleveland. The Browns have already let go of safety Donte Whitner and linebacker Karlos Dansby and traded Barkevious Mingo.

And on Monday morning, they added another big name to that list: rush linebacker Paul Kruger.

Bring him in for a look?

KChiefs1 · 08-30-2016, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato

Foles, Acker, Kruger... I love seeing that we're grabbing talent wherever we can and making a strong push to squeeze all the juice out of our offseason before the season starts.

Ladies & gentlemen...John Dorsey.

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KChiefs1 · 08-30-2016, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious

It's a lock.

That is a lock.

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**Bwana** · 08-30-2016, 07:57 AM

Do it!

Dante84 · 08-30-2016, 07:59 AM

So this would give Zombo the boot, right?

Houston
Hali
Kruger
Ford
Moses
Nicholas

Cut: Zombo?

Dunerdr · 08-30-2016, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante84

So this would give Zombo the boot, right?

Houston
Hali
Kruger
Ford
Moses
Nicholas

Cut: Zombo?

Dee ford to IR (undecending testicles)

Skyy God · 08-30-2016, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs=Good

Kruger to visit saints then chiefs

http://www.espn.com.au/american-foot...eveland-browns

If he wants another ring, we're a better chance than the Saints

Rooster · 08-30-2016, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious

Besides, you know how KC fans love their "high motor" (wink, wink) defensive players.......

about as much as KC fans love their "high motor" receivers.

ChiefAshhole1056 · 08-30-2016, 08:25 AM

Don't see how his decision would be based on money considering NO and KC are two of the least cap space friendly teams in the league..

Way I see it is he has to decide if he wants to be a part of a playoff team and recharge his value on a one year "prove-it" deal in KC, or go to a longer term and starting role in a more interesting/fun city such as New Oreleans (considering his career has been spent in Cleveland/Baltimore, the man may want to go that route).

Frosty · 08-30-2016, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante84

So this would give Zombo the boot, right?

Houston
Hali
Kruger
Ford
Moses
Nicholas

Cut: Zombo?

Zombo is too important on ST and can back up both OLB and ILB. Moses would be gone, imo.

**The Franchise** · 08-30-2016, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Frosty

Zombo is too important on ST and can back up both OLB and ILB. Moses would be gone, imo.

Zombo has kind of looked like shit so far this year though. I'd rather keep Moses over Zombo.

BleedingRed · 08-30-2016, 08:45 AM

Good depth pickup if he signs

Frosty · 08-30-2016, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Zombo has kind of looked like shit so far this year though. I'd rather keep Moses over Zombo.

Yeah, he hasn't looked great in the starting role. However, Moses hasn't done anything, either, since the Seattle game. Plus, they already cut Moses once this year.

RunKC · 08-30-2016, 09:05 AM

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The 6-foot-4, 270-pounder had a solid three-year run in Cleveland, but it wasn't as dynamic as his contract suggested. He had 4.5 sacks in 2013, 11 in 2014 and 2.5 in 2015, with his numbers suffering from his move from the strong side to the weak side.

That's why we're looking at him IMO. Ford Is better on the weak side and Kruger is better on the strong side.

Set that up and have Hali rotate in part time.

DJ's left nut · 08-30-2016, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

That's why we're looking at him IMO. Ford Is better on the weak side and Kruger is better on the strong side.

No question; it's a hand in glove move. He'd be an ideal fit.

But the money is just so damn tight. Even if you cut Davis, Fleming, DAT and Cooper, you save about $2.7 million after dead money but then you have to backfill them with other guys at the veterans minimum that will cost about $2 million. So cutting that dead weight saves us only about $700K.

Mauga would save us another $500K or so after his replacement is figured in.

Sure, there are re-structures, but I wouldn't guarantee Charles or Colquitt any more money. I'd consider restructuring Smith as I think we can safely say that he's here through 2018 at this point. The Chiefs could escape his deal pretty easily after 2017 but I just don't think they're inclined to do it. So if he's here through 2018 anyway, might as well try to convert some of his base this year into bonus. You could probably free up $3-4 million doing that, but it would take away that flexibility you'd gain post 2017 if it turns out that there's a young QB you really like in the draft next year.

There aren't easy answers, despite how loudly the "the cap is a myth" crowd wants to argue otherwise. This is a young team with some ascending players and a load of draft capital over the coming years. It's not a team that needs to push its chips in now for one last all or nothing run. They need to constantly keep an eye on the coming years as they have enough depth in this roster that they will need to pay for - the cap will ALWAYS be a problem on a team this deep.

Gotta be smart.

**The Franchise** · 08-30-2016, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

No question; it's a hand in glove move. He'd be an ideal fit.

But the money is just so damn tight. Even if you cut Davis, Fleming, DAT and Cooper, you save about $2.7 million after dead money but then you have to backfill them with other guys at the veterans minimum that will cost about $2 million. So cutting that dead weight saves us only about $700K.

Mauga would save us another $500K or so after his replacement is figured in.

Sure, there are re-structures, but I wouldn't guarantee Charles or Colquitt any more money. I'd consider restructuring Smith as I think we can safely say that he's here through 2018 at this point. The Chiefs could escape his deal pretty easily after 2017 but I just don't think they're inclined to do it. So if he's here through 2018 anyway, might as well try to convert some of his base this year into bonus. You could probably free up $3-4 million doing that, but it would take away that flexibility you'd gain post 2017 if it turns out that there's a young QB you really like in the draft next year.

There aren't easy answers, despite how loudly the "the cap is a myth" crowd wants to argue otherwise. This is a young team with some ascending players and a load of draft capital over the coming years. It's not a team that needs to push its chips in now for one last all or nothing run. They need to constantly keep an eye on the coming years as they have enough depth in this roster that they will need to pay for - the cap will ALWAYS be a problem on a team this deep.

Gotta be smart.

What are you backfilling with Davis, Flemming, DAT and Cooper? Their replacements are already on this roster. If they're planning on keeping a 4th RB....then they can keep Reaves. Flemming and Cooper already have their replacements in Murray and Acker. DAT is being replaced with Hill.

And I posted before in another thread....but the Broncos asked their Colquitt to take a paycut. I'd do the same thing with Dustin.

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ChiefAshhole1056 Veteran Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Austin, TX Casino cash: $6721100	Don't see how his decision would be based on money considering NO and KC are two of the least cap space friendly teams in the league.. Way I see it is he has to decide if he wants to be a part of a playoff team and recharge his value on a one year "prove-it" deal in KC, or go to a longer term and starting role in a more interesting/fun city such as New Oreleans (considering his career has been spent in Cleveland/Baltimore, the man may want to go that route).
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