Chiefs Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel - Page 158

**DaFace** · 04:32 PM

Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel

REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday.
By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT

Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.”

The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.”

More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo:

Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.”

This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg.

Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week.

Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos.

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Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann:

A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition.

The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well.

The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself.

Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function.

These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is.

Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side.

Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some.

For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period.

If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level.

suzzer99 · 12-03-2018, 02:25 PM

Remember half a week ago when Eric Berry was our biggest stress in life?

Good times

suzzer99 · 12-03-2018, 02:26 PM

You guys are bananas if you think that game yesterday wasn't in jeopardy. Mahomes converted 2 or 3 huge first downs on that last scoring drive.

You think our defense was going to stop them if he misses? It would probably be a repeat of last year. Our only hope would be if they score too soon.

**TribalElder** · 12-03-2018, 02:32 PM

gruden would have sabotaged that win if it got really close

they need the top pick, only the 9ers stand in their way

Frazod · 12-03-2018, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Are we going to pretend that the Chiefs aren't gearing him up for it?

Clearly they want him to. You want him to. I want him to. We all want him to.

But he hasn't.

He's practiced. That's nice. Yet as badly, and I mean ****ING BADLY, as we need him back, the brain trust didn't even have him dress for a game against the ****ing Raiders, which is as close to a preseason game as you can get.

That's clearly not a good sign.

TEX · 12-03-2018, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99

You guys are bananas if you think that game yesterday wasn't in jeopardy. Mahomes converted 2 or 3 huge first downs on that last scoring drive.

You think our defense was going to stop them if he misses? It would probably be a repeat of last year. Our only hope would be if they score too soon.

Exactly.

TEX · 12-03-2018, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frazod

He still hasn't. Didn't even dress yesterday.

Yes! He dressed in a nice red performance sweatshirt and matching pants with full stitched

Logo on both! And it looked like he even showered! He looked like a clean homeless guy instead of one who lives under a bridge.

Marcellus · 12-03-2018, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frazod

Clearly they want him to. You want him to. I want him to. We all want him to.

But he hasn't.

He's practiced. That's nice. Yet as badly, and I mean ****ING BADLY, as we need him back, the brain trust didn't even have him dress for a game against the ****ing Raiders, which is as close to a preseason game as you can get.

That's clearly not a good sign.

It was reported early on that he would likely practice for a few weeks before playing, it was also reported he had no set backs during his week of practice.

Not suiting up for the Raiders is not an indication of anything.

Frazod · 12-03-2018, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus

It was reported early on that he would likely practice for a few weeks before playing, it was also reported he had no set backs during his week of practice.

Not suiting up for the Raiders is not an indication of anything.

Well, it's sure as **** an indication that he's NOT REALLY TO ****ING PLAY.

Frazod · 12-03-2018, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99

You guys are bananas if you think that game yesterday wasn't in jeopardy. Mahomes converted 2 or 3 huge first downs on that last scoring drive.

You think our defense was going to stop them if he misses? It would probably be a repeat of last year. Our only hope would be if they score too soon.

Absolutely. Alice loses that game without a doubt.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! · 12-03-2018, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frazod

Absolutely. Alice loses that game without a doubt.

Kelce even said so himself that they don’t win this game if this was last year

RunKC · 12-03-2018, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frazod

Clearly they want him to. You want him to. I want him to. We all want him to.

But he hasn't.

He's practiced. That's nice. Yet as badly, and I mean ****ING BADLY, as we need him back, the brain trust didn't even have him dress for a game against the ****ing Raiders, which is as close to a preseason game as you can get.

That's clearly not a good sign.

I wouldn’t have played him on that shitty field either.

JakeF · 12-03-2018, 03:13 PM

So is Berry going to be ready for the playoffs?

O.city · 12-03-2018, 03:14 PM

It's time for him to play. No more day to day shit.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! · 12-03-2018, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city

It's time for him to play. No more day to day shit.

Rapoport said he will play. No limitations on him. I bet we see him during the Ravens game

staylor26 · 12-03-2018, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE!

Rapoport said he will play. No limitations on him. I bet we see him during the Ravens game

Rap said he will play when?

09-29-2018, 01:06 PM
DaFace Kind of a mod Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Donkey Land Casino cash: $1856899	Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me. https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday. By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.” The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.” More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo: Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.” This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg. Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week. Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos. ---- Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann: A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition. The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well. The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself. Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function. These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is. Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side. Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some. For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period. If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level. Last edited by DaFace; 09-29-2018 at 04:32 PM..
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