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Old 12-29-2012, 09:53 AM   #1
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Like I said, when the new GM and new HC sit down for their 15 minute interview with Geno Smith, they'll be smitten. When they watch him zip passes all over the field on his pro day, they'll fall in love. And when the Commish calls his name and he puts on a Chiefs hat and holds up his new Chiefs jersey, there will be much fappage.
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Old 12-29-2012, 10:07 AM   #2
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I get that its fun to speculate, but personally, i'm not going to get all tied in a knot about ANY of these guys.

We have no idea what 2013 will hold or what the new regime will see in any of these guys or want in their QB.

Have fun with it, but i dont get all of the gnashing of teeth... we'll get the guy "they" pick and hopefully we can get behind and support him.
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Old 12-29-2012, 10:27 AM   #3
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Old 12-29-2012, 10:30 AM   #4
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What about the camp of people that still want a QB just not Geno Smith?

I think the Geno Smith homers are more polarizing to scoff at any other QB option the Chiefs would pick. I was in on Geno very early in the season. Like people on here still thinking we had a chance to make the playoffs back in August/September and I was in on the hottest college QB already assuming an awful season by the Chiefs, and that was Geno. I think other QBs have outplayed him throughout the season and by the combine a true prospect will sprout just like it did for RG3, Cam Newton, etc.

I myself am in the draft a QB camp, and I am also in the camp that there are better QBs to draft than Geno Smith.

Which should be okay, not because of skin color, not because of his play, just because of watching all of the QBs, it comes down to who you think will succeed in the NFL. It's a crapshoot and the chance that all these QBs coming out hitting success in this draft is very low. Will it be Geno? Will be ____ or ____? none or all 3? you dont know. The key is finding the best one. Is Geno the best? I dont think so, I think there are better.
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Old 12-29-2012, 10:33 AM   #5
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What about the camp of people that still want a QB just not Geno Smith?

I think the Geno Smith homers are more polarizing to scoff at any other QB option the Chiefs would pick. I was in on Geno very early in the season. Like people on here still thinking we had a chance to make the playoffs back in August/September and I was in on the hottest college QB already assuming an awful season by the Chiefs, and that was Geno. I think other QBs have outplayed him throughout the season and by the combine a true prospect will sprout just like it did for RG3, Cam Newton, etc.

I myself am in the draft a QB camp, and I am also in the camp that there are better QBs to draft than Geno Smith.

Which should be okay, not because of skin color, not because of his play, just because of watching all of the QBs, it comes down to who you think will succeed in the NFL. It's a crapshoot and the chance that all these QBs coming out hitting success in this draft is very low. Will it be Geno? Will be ____ or ____? none or all 3? you dont know. The key is finding the best one. Is Geno the best? I dont think so, I think there are better.
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Old 12-29-2012, 10:43 AM   #6
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I think other QBs have outplayed him throughout the season...
And who would that be?

Smith:

350/490
4004 yards
71.4% completion
8.17 ypa
40 TDs
6 Ints
164.6 rating

I triple dog dare you to name a guy who outplayed Geno Smith at the QB position in 2013.

In fact, here's the Greatest Two QB's of the 21st century's numbers from their record setting/Heisman final year in college:

Luck:

288/404
3517 yards
71.3% completion
8.7 ypa
37 TDs
10 Ints
169.7 rating

Griffin:

291/402
4293 yards
72.4% completion
10.7 ypa
37 TDs
6 Ints
189.5 rating

Career numbers are also nearly identical.

There is not a QB in 2013 that can touch Smith numbers wise and when you watch the games, Smith is doing shit that not even Griffin or Luck did in terms of being forced to put the ball downfield in tight spots with defenders hanging all over him. Both Baylor and Stanford have had offensive lineman drafted first round recently and substantially better defenses than what Geno has had to play with this year. (WVU's defense was ranked 107th out of 120 FBS teams.)

QB's outplayed him...you are ****ing high as shit.
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Old 12-29-2012, 10:53 AM   #7
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There is not a QB in 2013 that can touch Smith numbers wise and when you watch the games, Smith is doing shit that not even Griffin or Luck did in terms of being forced to put the ball downfield in tight spots with defenders hanging all over him. Both Baylor and Stanford have had offensive lineman drafted first round recently and substantially better defenses than what Geno has had to play with this year. (WVU's defense was ranked 107th out of 120 FBS teams.)
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Old 12-29-2012, 11:10 AM   #8
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And who would that be?

Smith:

350/490
4004 yards
71.4% completion
8.17 ypa
40 TDs
6 Ints
164.6 rating

I triple dog dare you to name a guy who outplayed Geno Smith at the QB position in 2013.

In fact, here's the Greatest Two QB's of the 21st century's numbers from their record setting/Heisman final year in college:

Luck:

288/404
3517 yards
71.3% completion
8.7 ypa
37 TDs
10 Ints
169.7 rating

Griffin:

291/402
4293 yards
72.4% completion
10.7 ypa
37 TDs
6 Ints
189.5 rating

Career numbers are also nearly identical.

There is not a QB in 2013 that can touch Smith numbers wise and when you watch the games, Smith is doing shit that not even Griffin or Luck did in terms of being forced to put the ball downfield in tight spots with defenders hanging all over him. Both Baylor and Stanford have had offensive lineman drafted first round recently and substantially better defenses than what Geno has had to play with this year. (WVU's defense was ranked 107th out of 120 FBS teams.)

QB's outplayed him...you are ****ing high as shit.
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BINGO ! But Stevie my man this doesn't count because you know RBs are expected or should I say 'stereotyped' to be black
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Old 12-29-2012, 10:43 AM   #11
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I don't see how anyone could look at Geno's stat line for 2012 and say he's no good
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I don't see how anyone could look at Geno's stat line for 2012 and say he's no good
Stats are amazing considering he was on a mediocre team and always had to push the envelope to win(meaning forcing the ball downfield-taking chances) meaning his INTs should be higher and completion pct should be lower BUT they are not.

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I'm not dead set on our QB.

I have my own preference but just taking one again is a huge step towards giving a $3it...
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