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Old 08-27-2008, 10:22 AM   Topic Starter
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Why do our special teams suck?
during a rebuilding time your team should be full of young, athletic and hungry players.

i would think that your specials would should immediate benefits from that.


but our special teams and fundamentals still stuck
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Old 08-27-2008, 10:23 AM   #2
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Old 08-27-2008, 10:26 AM   #3
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Coaching is most of it, IMO.

But even teams with good special teams coaches have poor ST units.

That typically stems from a disagreement inside the organization on how many starters and backups will play ST, or if the units are filled with the bottom of the barrel guys.
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Old 08-27-2008, 10:36 AM   #4
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Old 08-27-2008, 10:37 AM   #5
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Coverage units have been top 10, return units in the bottom 2 or 3 in the league over the past 2 years. I sure as hell hope that the Chiefs spent a lot of time this offseason figuring out why the return units are so bad. I think Jamaal Charles might surprise on kicks this year.
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Old 08-27-2008, 10:56 AM   #6
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I think a lot of it is lack of continuity. There has been tremendous turnover in the backup players.

Top ST performers in 2005 were Scanlon, Stills and Horn.
2006 was Griffin, Brown and Grigsby.

2008 - none of those guys are around.
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Old 08-27-2008, 11:28 AM   #7
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When you lose Scanlon and Grigsby
it will take several drafts to recover
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Old 08-27-2008, 12:57 PM   #8
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it will take several drafts to recover
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Old 08-27-2008, 01:55 PM   #9
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When you lose Scanlon and Grigsby
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You forgot Gary Stills.
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Old 08-27-2008, 11:46 AM   #11
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Old 08-27-2008, 11:53 AM   #12
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It's because we can't stop opposing gunners at all. I have no idea why that's the case. I watch, and we put two players on each gunner, and then they just let him run by and chase him down the field. It drives me more crazy than anything else about this team.

If you have two guys on the gunner, the guy should never disrupt the return. Never.
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Old 08-27-2008, 12:34 PM   #14
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It's because we can't stop opposing gunners at all. I have no idea why that's the case. I watch, and we put two players on each gunner, and then they just let him run by and chase him down the field. It drives me more crazy than anything else about this team.

If you have two guys on the gunner, the guy should never disrupt the return. Never.
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Old 08-27-2008, 01:06 PM   #15
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The coaching staff is using the wrong definition of "special"...
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