What's good about getting Herm?

Red Dawg · 01-05-2006, 10:22 AM

I can't think of anything special. I think he's decent but what's his real allure?

Hammock Parties · 01-05-2006, 10:23 AM

You get a coach who will teach the philosophy "YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME."

eazyb81 · 01-05-2006, 10:24 AM

3 playoff appearances in the last 5 years with a team inferior to the Chiefs, and 2 playoff wins during that time period.

Oh yeah, him and King Carl are buddies.

No, Herm isn't Don Shula, but he is an above average coach. Would you be happier with Mike Tice, Jim Haslett, or Norv Turner?

Seek · 01-05-2006, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy

I can't think of anything special. I think he's decent but what's his real allure?

He does a great job scouting and drafting Defensive talent.

Bootlegged · 01-05-2006, 10:24 AM

The Herm is permanent...there is no known cure for the Herm. Symptoms include lesions, blisters and rash around the genitalia.

Seek · 01-05-2006, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

3 playoff appearances in the last 5 years with a team inferior to the Chiefs, and 2 playoff wins during that time period.

Oh yeah, him and King Carl are buddies.

No, Herm isn't Don Shula, but he is an above average coach. Would you be happier with Mike Tice, Jim Haslett, or Norv Turner?

so you basically just said he out coached DV. Since both coaches inherited 9-7 teams.

Imon Yourside · 01-05-2006, 10:26 AM

The real upside is his press conferences are entertaining the downside is pretty much everything else.

tomahawk kid · 01-05-2006, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Lattimer

The Herm is permanent...there is no known cure for the Herm. Symptoms include lesions, blisters and rash around the genitalia.

Please don't confuse "The Herm" with "The Ron Mexicos".

eazyb81 · 01-05-2006, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Seek

so you basically just said he out coached DV. Since both coaches inherited 9-7 teams.

I guess I did, what's your point?

tomahawk kid · 01-05-2006, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN

The real upside is his press conferences are entertaining the downside is pretty much everything else.

Herm is probably the best coach available, unless Jeff Fisher becomes available.

When Herm's teams have been healthy, he's won.

jspchief · 01-05-2006, 10:28 AM

More success with less talent in the same time that Vermeil had with the Chiefs.

The guy has the resume.

Hammock Parties · 01-05-2006, 10:29 AM

More nuggets of wisdom:

"Any drive that ends in a kick is good."

"If we hold them to 30 points, we can win."

Seek · 01-05-2006, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

I guess I did, what's your point?

Just paraphrasing to make it clear for those who didn't follow you. dumbed it down to say.

Hammock Parties · 01-05-2006, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

More success with less talent in the same time that Vermeil had with the Chiefs.

The guy has the resume.

You're fooling yourself.

If anything, they had more talent. Especially on defense.

In 2001 their 10-6 team beat our vastly inferior 6-10 team.

In 2002 our 8-8 team beat their 9-7 team.

The only "success" they had was beating up on an inexperienced Colts team and underchoking Marty.

Give the Chiefs the easy regular season schedules that the Jets had almost every year, and we'd have been in the playoffs 3 years if not more.

DaWolf · 01-05-2006, 10:37 AM

Well I'm not a huge Edwards fan at this point, but I guess:

A) Brings a defensive mind to the table, coached under defensive coaches like Marty, Dungy, Monte Kiffin. Can bring a change about in our D.

B) Until this year did have good success at the head coach of the Jets.

C) Actually managed to develop a young QB under his watch (of course the guy was injury prone).

D) Knows the value of a good offensive line and a top notch running back, which he would inherit here.

E) His players respect him and it wouldn't trigger a mass exodus. Transition period would be much shorter since he could easily talk to DV about anyone on the roster and get the bottom line. May be the best bet if we want to win now.

F) His teams are physical, not looked upon as soft, which frankly we have become over the years, at least defensively.

G) Actually has won a playoff game in the last 10 years.

Right now we're discussing a lot of his weaknesses, but once he's hired, we're gonna be fed all of his positives and I'm sure the rationalization of the choice is going to set in with us...

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DaWolf Cry havoc... Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10007725	Well I'm not a huge Edwards fan at this point, but I guess: A) Brings a defensive mind to the table, coached under defensive coaches like Marty, Dungy, Monte Kiffin. Can bring a change about in our D. B) Until this year did have good success at the head coach of the Jets. C) Actually managed to develop a young QB under his watch (of course the guy was injury prone). D) Knows the value of a good offensive line and a top notch running back, which he would inherit here. E) His players respect him and it wouldn't trigger a mass exodus. Transition period would be much shorter since he could easily talk to DV about anyone on the roster and get the bottom line. May be the best bet if we want to win now. F) His teams are physical, not looked upon as soft, which frankly we have become over the years, at least defensively. G) Actually has won a playoff game in the last 10 years. Right now we're discussing a lot of his weaknesses, but once he's hired, we're gonna be fed all of his positives and I'm sure the rationalization of the choice is going to set in with us...
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