Yo, Mr. Bwana, need your advice...

[petegz28]

I am looking to get 2 firearms, 1 for CCW and another for an assault type shotgun.

For the CCW I am thinking a .380. What is a good one that won't break me but won't **** up when I need it?

For the shotgun, what do you reccomend that is reasonable on the pocket book?

Thanks in advance

[2112]

Dude, hes a clandestine operative with the CIA...you should really keep this in PM's for national security sake

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by D2112

Dude, hes a clandestine operative with the CIA...you should really keep this in PM's for national security sake

that's funny

[JOhn]

Originally Posted by D2112

Dude, hes a clandestine operative with the CIA...you should really keep this in PM's for national security sake

Well looks like he's going to have to kill you now for blowing his cover

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

A .380 ! What are you gonna protect with that , a sack of donuts ?

Get a damn .45 !

[alanm]

Browning 9mm will never fail you.

[Bowser]

For the shotty - Mossberg 590a1 Adjustable Stock 6 shot

http://www.mossberg.com/products/def...ction=products


*edit - This shotgun MAY NOT be reasonable on the pocketbook. Heh

[KCChiefsMan]

I would like to acquire a SCAR-H. That gun is kick ass on Call of Duty. So how do I get one?

[BigOlChiefsfan]

I have a nice smallish .380 made by Bersa. Good buy, always goes bang. It's a decent 'briefcase' gun or for vest carry. Not really as small as the Kel-Tec P3AT or the new Ruger LCP. But I'll tell you a fact - it's been tough to buy .380 ammo since the election. Not impossible, but tough. I think a .380 is a decent carry round, but if you can't buy any to carry look around for something else. I shoot the 'big brother' of a .380 (which is a 9mm x 17) - the "Makarov" 9x18. I have a Bulgarian Makarov that I really like and a CZ82 - maybe the best surplus buy on the market right now. They both shoot the 'mak' round, and I can buy all I want for $12/50 for Russian FMJ ammo, Hornady 'self defense' 9x18 is roughly twice that.
Either of these little surplus pistols will be less than $300 and they're both tough, accurate and 'all steel'. They may weigh more than some of the .380's, but they're small pistols and will carry well. And they're bona fide service pistols designed to stand up to police/army use. They can take it.

That said, if I was only going to buy 1 pistol to for CCW I'd probably look at the 9mm kel-tec models. P-11 or P9 IIRC. They'll 'disappear' in your front pocket (with a pocket holster to keep the barrel clean/unplugged). They're designed to be carried often and shot fairly seldom but perfectly capable in the 7yard category they're designed for. Ammo isn't an issue. They're (relatively) easy to find and priced right.

My only advice re: fighting shotguns is - get really, really familiar with your shotgun, don't just pimp it up and sit it by the bed and 'assume' you know where it shoots. Go shoot skeet or trap with it - don't care if it's not a 'skeet' gun, you can use the practice shooting moving targets. I have a Benelli Nova 'tactical' because I got a great deal on it 2nd hand, but if I was really wanting a designated home defense gun I'd watch for a decent used pumpgun at pawnshops, cut the barrel off @ 19" and put a buttstock 'cuff' ammo holder on it so you'll have extra ammo on the gun. You really don't need barrel shrouds, bayonets, etc...remember, you may have to appear in court someday and explain why you shot a goblin w/the gun. Your old hunting gun will look a lot less 'weirdo' than some ninjabangstick. K.I.S.S.

[CrazyPhuD]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsMan

I would like to acquire a SCAR-H. That gun is kick ass on Call of Duty. So how do I get one?

go here

http://www.army.com/enlist/rangers.html

[KCChiefsMan]

Originally Posted by CrazyPhuD

go here

http://www.army.com/enlist/rangers.html

sweet, should be a piece of cake...a walk in the park

[googlegoogle]

Instead you should be asking which guns will fail on you.

Are there any?

[KC native]

Ruger P345. Slim 45 with 7 shot mag.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

A .380 ! What are you gonna protect with that , a sack of donuts ?

Get a damn .45 !

I already have a .40. I need something small to carry.

[rad]

Originally Posted by BigOlChiefsfan

I have a nice smallish .380 made by Bersa. Good buy, always goes bang. It's a decent 'briefcase' gun or for vest carry. Not really as small as the Kel-Tec P3AT or the new Ruger LCP. But I'll tell you a fact - it's been tough to buy .380 ammo since the election. Not impossible, but tough. I think a .380 is a decent carry round, but if you can't buy any to carry look around for something else. I shoot the 'big brother' of a .380 (which is a 9mm x 17) - the "Makarov" 9x18. I have a Bulgarian Makarov that I really like and a CZ82 - maybe the best surplus buy on the market right now. They both shoot the 'mak' round, and I can buy all I want for $12/50 for Russian FMJ ammo, Hornady 'self defense' 9x18 is roughly twice that.
Either of these little surplus pistols will be less than $300 and they're both tough, accurate and 'all steel'. They may weigh more than some of the .380's, but they're small pistols and will carry well. And they're bona fide service pistols designed to stand up to police/army use. They can take it.

That said, if I was only going to buy 1 pistol to for CCW I'd probably look at the 9mm kel-tec models. P-11 or P9 IIRC. They'll 'disappear' in your front pocket (with a pocket holster to keep the barrel clean/unplugged). They're designed to be carried often and shot fairly seldom but perfectly capable in the 7yard category they're designed for. Ammo isn't an issue. They're (relatively) easy to find and priced right.

My only advice re: fighting shotguns is - get really, really familiar with your shotgun, don't just pimp it up and sit it by the bed and 'assume' you know where it shoots. Go shoot skeet or trap with it - don't care if it's not a 'skeet' gun, you can use the practice shooting moving targets. I have a Benelli Nova 'tactical' because I got a great deal on it 2nd hand, but if I was really wanting a designated home defense gun I'd watch for a decent used pumpgun at pawnshops, cut the barrel off @ 19" and put a buttstock 'cuff' ammo holder on it so you'll have extra ammo on the gun. You really don't need barrel shrouds, bayonets, etc...remember, you may have to appear in court someday and explain why you shot a goblin w/the gun. Your old hunting gun will look a lot less 'weirdo' than some ninjabangstick. K.I.S.S.

I have a Bersa Thunder .380 as well...nice little gun. I also have a S&W model 65 .357 Mag and a Glock model 19 in 9 mm. The Glock is the one I carry the most though.

As for the 380 ammo, it's coming back. I've seen it more recently than 6 months ago. Over the summer, I found some in a Sports Authority of all places and bought 4 boxes.