Chiefs Current NFL QBs better than Alex Smith

ILChief · 03-02-2013, 11:14 AM

I've read more than once here by multiple people that Alex Smith is the 30th best QB in the league. So post the 29 you think are better. I personally think he's middle of the pack. Here are the ones I think are better (in no particular order):

Brady
Rodgers
Peyton
Eli
Flacco
Brees
Ryan
Luck
Kaepernick
RG3
Stafford
Wilson
Newton
Roethlesberger

Smith belongs here or close to here with Palmer, Cutler, Bradford, Tannehill, Vick, and Rivers

keg in kc · 03-02-2013, 11:15 AM

I think he's bottom third. Much like Cassel in 2010, a lot is hidden by surrounding cast.

BlackHelicopters · 03-02-2013, 11:20 AM

Better than Alex Smith? Stanzi, Quinn, Cassel......................

Dr. Johnny Fever · 03-02-2013, 11:24 AM

Whitlock says he's elite so this is silly.

ILChief · 03-02-2013, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop

Better than Alex Smith? Stanzi, Quinn, Cassel......................

You're trolling

**TribalElder** · 03-02-2013, 11:28 AM

Cassel part Duex

Messier · 03-02-2013, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder

Cassel part Duex

Messier · 03-02-2013, 11:35 AM

I'd put him 16th.

mnchiefsguy · 03-02-2013, 11:40 AM

Was thinking about this the other night, and here is what I came up...I just thought of current starters and through each division in the NFL (qb's with a * next to them are qb's that might not be better now, but will be by the time they have as much experience as Smith):

In the AFC, better QB's thans Smith:

Brady
Tannehill *
Roethlesberger
Flacco
Dalton
Luck
Shaub
Manning
Rivers

In the NFC:
RG3
Romo
Manning
Rogers
Cutler
Stafford
Brees
Ryan
Newton
Kapernick
Wilson

I think those listed are better than Smith...I think the following qb's are debatable, and could be argue that they are as good, or will be as good as Smith:

Locker
Foles
Vick
Ponder
Freeman
Bradford

This is what make the trade, and what we gave up so depressing. We got so little value in return.

Messier · 03-02-2013, 11:43 AM

No wonder you don't like the trade.

MGRS13 · 03-02-2013, 11:52 AM

Bradford is better. Vick is better(and by the way he sucks, not accurate at all) Locker, Foles, Ponder, Freeman all have more upside. So that puts him ranked 23rd. Or worst case 27. Worth a 2nd and 3rd rounder. I don't think so. The chiefs gave up the farm for fitzpatrick, beck, Cassel, etc. Spin away if you want alex smith lovers the fact is the guy sucks.

FringeNC · 03-02-2013, 11:55 AM

This is the key question. If he really is a bottom third guy, not only will we suck for the next few years, but it raises serious questions about the competency of Dorsey and Reid.

Contrary to the "Chiefs playing it safe as usual, going for the mediocre veteran QB", this is a risky move for Dorsey and Reid. Had they drafted a Geno Smith or Matt Barkley, I don't think the pressure to win starts until year 3. Now the pressure to win is immediate. Gutsy move by those two, and if it fails like Pioli's acquisition of Cassel did, they will share Pioli's fate in a similar time frame. These guys must really believe in Alex Smith, and no way in hell they trade for him unless they believe he's top third guy. Obviously, time will tell.

Dixie Land · 03-02-2013, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MGRS13

Bradford is better. Vick is better(and by the way he sucks, not accurate at all) Locker, Foles, Ponder, Freeman all have more upside. So that puts him ranked 23rd. Or worst case 27. Worth a 2nd and 3rd rounder. I don't think so. The chiefs gave up the farm for fitzpatrick, beck, Cassel, etc. Spin away if you want alex smith lovers the fact is the guy sucks.

Yes if your 27th out of 32 this is NOT GOOD>....even 23rd out of 32..basically the azz end of the spectrum...

Red Dawg · 03-02-2013, 11:59 AM

Tannehil? No. Rivers has been shit for the last two seasons Dalton and Cam has been decent at best. Alex been better the two years.

MGRS13 · 03-02-2013, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy

Tannehil? No. Rivers has been shit for the last two seasons Dalton and Cam has been decent at best. Alex been better the two years.

Tannehil, Dalton, Rivers and Cam. Which one of those guys was benched last year? Oh thats right only Smith. Terrible argument. All of those guys are better then smith.

03-02-2013, 11:14 AM
ILChief MVP Join Date: Jan 2001 Casino cash: $7914831	Current NFL QBs better than Alex Smith I've read more than once here by multiple people that Alex Smith is the 30th best QB in the league. So post the 29 you think are better. I personally think he's middle of the pack. Here are the ones I think are better (in no particular order): Brady Rodgers Peyton Eli Flacco Brees Ryan Luck Kaepernick RG3 Stafford Wilson Newton Roethlesberger Smith belongs here or close to here with Palmer, Cutler, Bradford, Tannehill, Vick, and Rivers
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03-02-2013, 11:15 AM	#2
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03-02-2013, 11:20 AM	#3
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03-02-2013, 11:24 AM	#4
Dr. Johnny Fever stax of wax Join Date: Feb 2004 Casino cash: $10004900	Whitlock says he's elite so this is silly. __________________ courtesy of BoneKrusher "Baseball? It's just a game. As simple as a ball and bat, yet as complex as the American spirit it symbolizes. It's a sport, a business and sometimes a religion." Ernie Harwell
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03-02-2013, 11:28 AM	#6
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03-02-2013, 11:35 AM	#8
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03-02-2013, 11:40 AM	#9
mnchiefsguy MVP Join Date: Dec 2003 Casino cash: $3486206	Was thinking about this the other night, and here is what I came up...I just thought of current starters and through each division in the NFL (qb's with a * next to them are qb's that might not be better now, but will be by the time they have as much experience as Smith): In the AFC, better QB's thans Smith: Brady Tannehill * Roethlesberger Flacco Dalton Luck Shaub Manning Rivers In the NFC: RG3 Romo Manning Rogers Cutler Stafford Brees Ryan Newton Kapernick Wilson I think those listed are better than Smith...I think the following qb's are debatable, and could be argue that they are as good, or will be as good as Smith: Locker Foles Vick Ponder Freeman Bradford This is what make the trade, and what we gave up so depressing. We got so little value in return. __________________
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03-02-2013, 11:43 AM	#10
Messier MVP Join Date: Mar 2004 Casino cash: $10005050	No wonder you don't like the trade.
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03-02-2013, 11:52 AM	#11
MGRS13 Veteran Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Home in KC Casino cash: $10074930	Bradford is better. Vick is better(and by the way he sucks, not accurate at all) Locker, Foles, Ponder, Freeman all have more upside. So that puts him ranked 23rd. Or worst case 27. Worth a 2nd and 3rd rounder. I don't think so. The chiefs gave up the farm for fitzpatrick, beck, Cassel, etc. Spin away if you want alex smith lovers the fact is the guy sucks.
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03-02-2013, 11:55 AM	#12
FringeNC MVP Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: NC Casino cash: $1776014	This is the key question. If he really is a bottom third guy, not only will we suck for the next few years, but it raises serious questions about the competency of Dorsey and Reid. Contrary to the "Chiefs playing it safe as usual, going for the mediocre veteran QB", this is a risky move for Dorsey and Reid. Had they drafted a Geno Smith or Matt Barkley, I don't think the pressure to win starts until year 3. Now the pressure to win is immediate. Gutsy move by those two, and if it fails like Pioli's acquisition of Cassel did, they will share Pioli's fate in a similar time frame. These guys must really believe in Alex Smith, and no way in hell they trade for him unless they believe he's top third guy. Obviously, time will tell.
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03-02-2013, 11:59 AM	#14
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